Bike of the Month: Sam Hillborne

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I think I recently read in some form of Rivendell communication or another, that Riv will be getting new shipments of bicycles monthly for the next several months - starting now. I love this for several reasons.

1. Rivendell is making money.
2. People are having New Bike Day.
3. New Rivendells are arguably the best topic we have on this List.

I think it would be fun to start a thread specific to these new bikes and see who is getting what. Maybe it’s for you. Maybe it’s a Christmas gift for your spouse or your kiddo. Today, the dark gold and Rivendell blue Sams were up for grabs. I would love to celebrate with you if you ordered one and care to mention it here.

I don’t know what number of frames Rivendell started with, but there were only a handful left on the site a couple of hours ago. Congratulations if you are a proud new owner!
Leah

[thalasin]

I got one! 54 cm dark gold. I hopped on it right away and it looks like it's a good thing I did. From what I can tell, they sold out of 54's within 15 minutes or so. I saw a comment on the IG post that someone had one in their cart and it was sold by the time they tried to check out.

This will be my second Riv...I picked up a used creamsicle Ram in 2001 that I still have. I'm excited to finally be able to buy new and support Riv in a big way!

Russ's Hillborne review on Path Less Pedaled finally pushed me to pull the trigger. Maybe he should get a commission. ;)

Tracy

[dougP]

The dark orange is a fantastic color.  Hope it becomes a standard.

dougP

[velomann]

I will be taking delivery of a new "Dark Gold" 51cm Sam as soon as Golden Pliers receives it and I'm stoked!

I've been corresponding with Will and Kevin at Golden Pliers since details first started coming out, and put half down with Kevin so he could get his shop order in as soon as possible - GP took over the Portland Rivendell dealership after Rivelo closed. 

The Gold 51's apparently sold out first, and I'd been told that Riv expected that since Blue Lug had already spoken for most of them - they were on BL's website several days ago.

I've been a Riv fan for years, and owned several Bridgestone road and mountain bikes, and applied various Riv-inspired treatment to other bikes as well. But this Sam is my first actual Rivendell.

I've been accumulating parts for the build for months and have everything ready to go. I'll post pictures when it's done, but you can expect that it's going to be singular and color-coordinated ;-)

Mike M

[Leah Peterson]

Wow, Mike, you really planned for this one! It felt like these Sams snuck up on the rest of us, but not YOU. You saw them coming on the horizon months ago!  I’m so happy you got the size and color you wanted and that you are getting your very first Rivendell. Just you wait, what a snob it will make of you. Nothing else will be as good or as worth riding...that’s what happened to me, anyway.

And Tracy! Good for you; you will notice there’s a difference between old and new Riv geo. My Betty Foy was a way different ride than my long chainstay Clementine. You’ll have two really great bikes so you can ride whatever flavor you crave. I hope Rivendell knows Path Less Pedaled influenced your purchase - this could be a great tool for them to grow.

Sounds like the dark gold was a hit! Can’t believe how fast these sold - faster than the Clems, I think, and the Clems were pretty popular. 

Leah

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I will be taking delivery of a new "Dark Gold" 51cm Sam as soon as Golden Pliers receives it and I'm stoked!

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[Roberta]

Tracy and Mike,

It is so exciting to see new Riv owners.  I'm new-ish (3 years) and I couldn't believe how great the ride was when I first hopped on.  I expect you'll have the same great experience.  I'm looking forward to your ride reports.

Mike,

Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours being shipped out with everyone else's?  I hope it's the former and you get it by this weekend!

Roberta

[Jason Fuller]

Funny, I bought my Hillborne a year ago today (happy birthday, Sam!), which was my first Rivendell.  I know, hard to believe since I have three now.  Anyways I actually made the jump after a couple years of idle consideration largely because I thought the last batch was going to be the final batch ever. Sort of funny now but nonetheless I'm glad I thought that, because I've never owned a bike I've been as happy with as the Hillborne.  I've also put just under 2900 km on it in this first year, which is huge mileage for me, and a good indicator of how much I like the bike.  I hope to put 50,000+ km on it in my lifetime. 

I'm forgetting some of what's upcoming already!  I know Platypus are next (for the plebs, not Leah) and I know Appaloosa and Gus / Susie are somewhere on the horizon? I plan to sell my Clem Smith and XO-2 probably in the coming months, so who knows, by the time the Charlie H Gallup rolls (er, trots) into town I might even have a spot for it. Probably not though haha.  

[velomann]

 "Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours being
shipped out with everyone else's? I hope it's the former and you get it by
this weekend!"

Golden Pliers doesn't have it yet but last weekend said "very soon" so I'm assuming it's being prepped/shipped with the rest at HQ, though I'm hoping I'm near the front of the queue ;-)

Mike M

[velomann]

Also, I know Russ and Laura from their PDX days and am a Patreon supporter of Path Less Pedaled. Russ' review (and subsequent purchase) of the Sam also heavily influenced my purchase. So I agree that Riv's relationship with PLP is a win-win.

MM

[Joel S]

The Sam Hillborne is a shorter chainstay not racer boy influenced.  There are some of us that like the shorted chain stays.  I got nervous when I heard that many 51cm bikes were promised I believe to BlueLug and hopped on a NEW leftover from the 2019 release that I found.  Glad I did even though the Orange would not have been my first choice.  Love the blue but I have had many Riv blue bikes.  The darl gold is growing on me.  Congrats to all who were able to get the size and color you wanted, the Sam is a great bike.  

[Ben Mihovk]

I'm also a new Riv owner as of late September after REALLY wanting one since about 2006. Like others, I Riv'd up a less expensive bike to scratch the itch and it was also the PLP videos about the Sam that pushed me over the edge. I had been saving up money from my summer job VERY aggressively to purchase a Rivendell and had planned on waiting until my 40th birthday in May of 2021. But Russ's video dropped in early August, I started calling and e-mailing questions about which frame is best for me, and had an order placed before the end of the month. Absolutely zero regrets. The quality of the build and components (still blown away at the difference between a nice wheel set and what comes on a complete bike from a web order company) in conjunction with a frame that actually fits me has been an eye-opening experience. 

I was a little worried about the Sams being released and kicking myself for going with an Atlantis just because my size was available when I was ready to buy. However, as much as I love the color and look of the Sam, their suggestion of 220 being a cut off for the bike makes me glad I did not wait. I'm at their recommended weight max and I carry a good 10lbs of stuff with me without even trying on my daily commute. Plus, Russian Sub green and a rainbow double top tube on the 59cm blows away everything else! 

I'm VERY happy to see frames getting snapped up and Rivendell staying busy. I'm also glad I bought my bike when I did...I'm guessing turnaround times will be a little slow with all the Sams that got snapped up. Anyone doing a full Rivendell build and get a time quote? 

Ben

[Ray]

Jason, mind if I ask why you're getting rid of the Clem/XO-2 so soon? Has the Bombadil essentially replaced both?

Ray

[Jason Fuller]

Ray,  

In a word, yes - I kind of went through the whole goldilocks process trying to find what I wanted for day-to-day rides including commuting. The Bombadil breaks one rule--that it's not so expensive that I worry about it--but I'm trying to let go of that fear (and double lock it!). The Clem is a little small (I should have gone 52, but I'm pretty in-between on sizes) and the XO-2 is good but a bit short for an upright bar setup for me. 

That said if I had the space I'd keep them, but being in an apartment (with a partner whom doesn't want the place filled with bikes) means max 4 bikes, and I have a mountain bike and a folding bike I don't want to part with too (the latter is used for lock-up downtown purposes so the Bomba would never be in really sketchy situations) 

Cheers,

Jason 

[Leah Peterson]

Jason, it’s funny how one Rivendell turns plural. My husband thought I was crazy for wanting the expensive Betty Foy, but I swore I would take it to my grave and never need another bike ever ever ever again! And, now there are 4 Rivendells in the garage (but only 2 are mine, and 3/4 of them are Clems 😬 So there.)

You asked about what’s coming next... I dug this out from Rivendell’s IG: 

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On Nov 5, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Jason Fuller <jtf.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

Funny, I bought my Hillborne a year ago today (happy birthday, Sam!), which was my first Rivendell.  I know, hard to believe since I have three now.  Anyways I actually made the jump after a couple years of idle consideration largely because I thought the last batch was going to be the final batch ever. Sort of funny now but nonetheless I'm glad I thought that, because I've never owned a bike I've been as happy with as the Hillborne.  I've also put just under 2900 km on it in this first year, which is huge mileage for me, and a good indicator of how much I like the bike.  I hope to put 50,000+ km on it in my lifetime. 

I'm forgetting some of what's upcoming already!  I know Platypus are next (for the plebs, not Leah) and I know Appaloosa and Gus / Susie are somewhere on the horizon? I plan to sell my Clem Smith and XO-2 probably in the coming months, so who knows, by the time the Charlie H Gallup rolls (er, trots) into town I might even have a spot for it. Probably not though haha.  

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[Leah Peterson]

Oh, these are my favorite stories. The long wait. Dreaming. Planning. Saving. It’s so satisfying when that person gets their Rivendell. I love the rainbow Atlantis; so much character.

I wonder if Riv knows that so many of you new buyers made your purchases after Russ’ review? I’m going to email them; this is really useful information.

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I'm also a new Riv owner as of late September after REALLY wanting one since about 2006. Like others, I Riv'd up a less expensive bike to scratch the itch and it was also the PLP videos about the Sam that pushed me over the edge. I had been saving up money from my summer job VERY aggressively to purchase a Rivendell and had planned on waiting until my 40th birthday in May of 2021. But Russ's video dropped in early August, I started calling and e-mailing questions about which frame is best for me, and had an order placed before the end of the month. Absolutely zero regrets. The quality of the build and components (still blown away at the difference between a nice wheel set and what comes on a complete bike from a web order company) in conjunction with a frame that actually fits me has been an eye-opening experience. 

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[Nathan Mattia]

I think the reason people are so excited about the Hillborne’s is that they resemble something of a more mainstream bike.  I realize it’s not entirely true, but it seems like for several months, the only bikes you could buy from Riv had insanely long chain stays or were all step-thru mixtes.  

I know that a Gallop or a Platypus may inevitably be in my future, but people dig more traditional bikes as well.  

I’m a bit surprised the middle sizes are sold out so quickly.  

[Mark Roland]

True, the last couple batches o' bikes were from the Hillibike line, which does have the longest wheelbases of all the Rivs, and one variation is a step through. But i'm not convinced about the "more mainstream" and some kind of relief from "insanely long chain stays."

Right now you can't really buy ANY bicycles from Rivendell other than a couple of models, and only in the smallest size. I think part of the reason for this is that the company has built up its dealer network, including and particularly Blue Lug.

Also the latest batch of Sams is back to canti/v-brakes, which many people seem to prefer. And of course that golden orange color and the classic mink blue! In terms of the chain stays, I presume those are where they are due to the bike's position in the line-up. But I would not be surprised if, like the Platypus (also now canti), got a touch of elongation in that zone this go round, since they are siblings. I suspect most people want the company's most popular model, and trust them to equip it with a suitable chain stay length.

Not that this particularly matters--they seem to sell out of just about every model rather quickly these days, which is a good thing, and is their business model--similar to Acorn bags, where customers eagerly anticipate the next batch release, and line up virtually around the block. Come to think of it, that is how the brewery across the street from me operates, too (except non-virtually).

[Joseph Willms]

Just ordered my Sam earlier today the minute they went live! 57 cm in Dark Gold here I come! Can't wait!

Joe

[Will Rose]

This is my first post here because I just picked up my new Sam from Riv yesterday. Just the Frame/Fork, etc., because, unlike some others, I did not do a good job of scheming and saving, etc. I've been wanting my first Rivendell for quite some time, admiring them from afar (and close up up they'd let me), lurking around here. I'm very excited to piece this bike together from whatever nice parts I have on hand, but I might have to exercise my patience and planning faculties on the post-purchase end of things. I'm glad I jumped on it, though, because I'd hate to miss out on these frames for a while and continue the wanting. 

Oh, and mine's blue and a 57.

Will

[velomann]

Teaser, including the groundscore bandana I found while out picking up the frame at Golden Pliers.

Mike M

[velomann]

BTW - Kevin at Golden Pliers in PDX also ordered a blue 54 (hanging on the wall) and a dark gold 57 (arriving any day) neither of which are spoken for (yet!)

Mike M

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 2:34:23 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

[Leah Peterson]

Oh boy oh boy oh boy!!! Mike isn’t getting any sleep tonight! You better post regular updates...we’re cheering from here!

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Teaser, including the groundscore bandana I found while out picking up the frame at Golden Pliers

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Mike M

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 2:34:23 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

I think I recently read in some form of Rivendell communication or another, that Riv will be getting new shipments of bicycles monthly for the next several months - starting now. I love this for several reasons.

1. Rivendell is making money.
2. People are having New Bike Day.
3. New Rivendells are arguably the best topic we have on this List.

I think it would be fun to start a thread specific to these new bikes and see who is getting what. Maybe it’s for you. Maybe it’s a Christmas gift for your spouse or your kiddo. Today, the dark gold and Rivendell blue Sams were up for grabs. I would love to celebrate with you if you ordered one and care to mention it here.

I don’t know what number of frames Rivendell started with, but there were only a handful left on the site a couple of hours ago. Congratulations if you are a proud new owner!
Leah

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[Mark Roland]

Always love seeing a shot of a bicycle picking up a bicycle. Here is my Big Dummy loaded with my original Clementine. (Little did he know he was picking up his replacement.  Life can be cruel.)

[velomann]

For those curious, here's a couple closeups where I was trying to capture the Dark Gold color and sparkle. And yes, that's a gold seatpost I swapped in ;-) It's a hard color to capture but it's more gold than orange.

MIke M

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[Joel Stern]

That looks great, even better than on Rivendell’s site.  

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[True Golden]

Speaking of Sam Hillbourne's

how does one determine the manufacture date?

I'm guessing through the serial number.

I think my pumpkin orange with side pull brakes is a 2018 model but how do I verify that?

Paul in Dallas 

[David Person]

Mike, that sparkle gold is real nice looking.

[Casey McMann]

Wow! That gold has to be one of the best colors they’ve ever done.

[Chase Granoff]

Has anyone built up one of these new Sam's yet? As I as, patiently as possible, wait for mine I would love more eye candy!

[Joel Stern]

From the previous batch. I just change the bars and re-tape them so it’s a little bit different but not much and also change the brake levers I didn’t bond with those diacompe ones. 

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[Nathan F]

Here's a link to my '18, if anyone needs inspiration!

https://i.imgur.com/qYhzcom.jpg

[velomann]

Getting there ;-)

Should be rolling in the next day or two.
Mike M

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Mike, so fancy! Look at your pedals and brake levers, wow! You’ll of course start a whole new thread dedicated to Gold Dust (or whatever you name it) and tell us all about the parts and how it rides, I’m sure.

Meanwhile, I am trying not to be a green-eyed monster. My Platypus wheelset/dyno/pedals were supposed to ship Friday, did not in fact ship until Monday, and now Bike Flights is delaying delivery. Original date: this Friday, now arriving Monday. Having the bike assembled at a shop during Thanksgiving week doesn’t sound promising. Ugh, 2020...

[Chase Granoff]

That looks awesome Mike! Love the details!

[greenteadrinkers]

Mike - that looks nice! Love to see another Sam with Bosco's, here's mine:

[Joe P]

Really excited that I was able to order a 54 cm Sam, the dark gold. My stalking of the RBW website paid off! I have had only one bike for the last 30 years (an x-03). I love that bike, but I have a feeling this is going to be a whole different thing.

[Roberta]

It's a revelation!  I too had one bike for nearly 30 years.  Then I bought a Riv.  Then another. 

Start saving your money because you'll start smiling like you never have before!

[Jason Fuller]

Joe P - I expect you're right. I bought an XO-1 and a Sam last year and the XO-1 didn't last long because despite being a great bike worthy of its accolades, it's well overshadowed by the Hillborne. It's maybe a bit less zippy, but the small concession there is paid back tenfold in ride quality. RBW makes a number of "all rounder" bikes today but I think the Sam is probably my favourite blend. 

[velomann]

It's Done! Well, done for now; I don think a bike like this is ever done, but I like version 1.0 a lot. Took it out for a short jaunt that included pavement, gravel, and trail and it was smoooooth. 

Notes on the build for those curious:

  I mounted the wheelset I originally built for my (wrecked) Ocean Air Cycles Rambler - Son front hub, White T11 rear on Velocity Dyad rims. Ultegra front/rear derailleurs shifting 2x9 (11-34 rear, 24/38 wide-low front with homemade chainguard on Sugino XD-2 crankset. Paul Motolite brakes (OMG - so good!) with orange Paul Love levers and orange brake nuts, Jagwire gold braided cable housing, VP 001 gold platform pedals and gold Promax seatpost. Brooks B-17 saddle that I carved myself, Wald 137 mounted on a Mark's Rack - I bent the inside struts to clear the brake nuts and match the angle of the outside struts - and an Outershell Basket Bag in marigold X-Pac that's near identical in color to the frame. Bosco bars on new 135 faceplate stem with harlequin wrapped yellow/orange Newbaums. 

The grips and bars are the same color tape but I did the shallac different. I originally had ESI orange grips but the color was glaring. I'd already wrapped the bars and had 6 or so coats of clear shellac but I wanted it a little more muted so I did a final coat of amber. I started the grips with amber, which darkened them well, so to hold that color I did the final coats in clear.

More pics in the flickr album here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157716865339992

[Tom M]

Best chainstay wrap ever. Really nice job. Congrats on your new bike.

Tom Milani

Alexandria, VA

[Leah Peterson]

Mike, my goodness, you DESERVE this bike; you have done it right! Could it be any prettier? No, it could not. This bike was worth the wait. All your details just came together and it’s perfect, down to the minutiae.

Next up: you tell us all about the rides you’re doing with this glittery, golden Sam. 

So happy for you,

Leah

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It's Done! Well, done for now; I don think a bike like this is ever done, but I like version 1.0 a lot. Took it out for a short jaunt that included pavement, gravel, and trail and it was smoooooth. 

Notes on the build for those curious:

  I mounted the wheelset I originally built for my (wrecked) Ocean Air Cycles Rambler - Son front hub, White T11 rear on Velocity Dyad rims. Ultegra front/rear derailleurs shifting 2x9 (11-34 rear, 24/38 wide-low front with homemade chainguard on Sugino XD-2 crankset. Paul Motolite brakes (OMG - so good!) with orange Paul Love levers and orange brake nuts, Jagwire gold braided cable housing, VP 001 gold platform pedals and gold Promax seatpost. Brooks B-17 saddle that I carved myself, Wald 137 mounted on a Mark's Rack - I bent the inside struts to clear the brake nuts and match the angle of the outside struts - and an Outershell Basket Bag in marigold X-Pac that's near identical in color to the frame. Bosco bars on new 135 faceplate stem with harlequin wrapped yellow/orange Newbaums. 

The grips and bars are the same color tape but I did the shallac different. I originally had ESI orange grips but the color was glaring. I'd already wrapped the bars and had 6 or so coats of clear shellac but I wanted it a little more muted so I did a final coat of amber. I started the grips with amber, which darkened them well, so to hold that color I did the final coats in clear.

More pics in the flickr album here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157716865339992

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On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 8:11:54 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

Joe P - I expect you're right. I bought an XO-1 and a Sam last year and the XO-1 didn't last long because despite being a great bike worthy of its accolades, it's well overshadowed by the Hillborne. It's maybe a bit less zippy, but the small concession there is paid back tenfold in ride quality. RBW makes a number of "all rounder" bikes today but I think the Sam is probably my favourite blend. 

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[Jason Fuller]

That's a heck of a unique build and the best bar / chainstay wrapping I've seen in a good while. This build will be hard to beat for the batch of Sam's!  

[Ray]

Mike, that's the perfect backdrop for that Sam. All the colors just look great. Well done.

Ray

[i]

I guess I should post my hillborne

I hate the albatross bars actually. not for me. going with drops. got some really nice aluminum ones for sale if someone wants em, maybe..might put them on the MB1 and see how that goes.

https://imgur.com/EWuiFri

[Joel Stern]

Nicely done. Have you given that Albatross a good try? I just changed mine on one bike to Choco but it is too cold here to give them a test ride. 

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[Jason Fuller]

I like 48cm Noodles a lot on the Hillborne, to me they suit the bike perfectly.  I like Albatross bars too but for me they need to be level with the saddle and I like the levers forward so the braking position is as far forward as possible. I'm curious to try Billie's with a really long stem, but the Sam isn't a long enough bike for them to work for me  

[Chase Granoff]

Hi! I meant to post these awhile ago... this is my newish dark gold Sam.... (48 for those wondering)... got in a few good rides so far and so looking forward to many more adventures!

I've changed a few things recently... swapped the tires for some Ultradynamico (set up mullet style right now) and got an Ocean Air x Nitto Erlen (and a beautiful new saddlebag from Waxwings!).

Thought some of you might enjoy the pictures.

[Joel Stern]

Very nice. Great bike, looks like a perfect fit. 

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