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John Marino

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Oct 3, 2017, 5:23:52 PM10/3/17
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On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Dan Partelly <parte...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 12:01:51 AM UTC+3, John Marino wrote:
As the Ravenports project is young and required many things to be implemented, the amount of ports available is relatively small and is lacking a great number of ports of popular and well used software.

Listing which ports you'd like to see introduced next will likely help that port jump in priority, so feel free to add your vote on this topic!

Hi John,

I like Ravenports, it brings multi platform consistency , and I am a big fan of consistent things on all my computers.  Work such as yours was long overdue.  As for ports:

1. Valgrind
2. Lisp stack  starting with SBCL and CMUCL
3. Erlang
4. Complete Xorg  drivers ? init stack ? , minimal utility suite
5. vim-lite
6. emacs




Hi Dan,
So far erlang, vim (two variants, standard and loaded), emacs (two variants, standard and desktop) have been added to Ravenports.

Valgrind should be straight-forward (excluded on DragonFly).

SBCL lisp should be straight-forward.  You need to define what ports constitute "lisp stack" though.  Same with xorg drivers, you should list specifically which ones you're looking for.

Dan Partelly

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Oct 4, 2017, 3:37:54 AM10/4/17
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HI John,
I seen already the utils in the ports, thank you very much !

Regading xorg: intel/amd video drivers ,kbd , mouse, synaptics input drivers , xinit and xauth
 one terminal emulator: xterm would doit at first

Regarding Lisp:

by Lisp stack I understand Emacs (already in ) + Slime REPL (editor/slime). It is in fact much more than an Emacs addon.

compilers: SBCL and CCL (lang/ecl) ). I know I said CMUCL initially but it was a mistake. 
embedded lisp: ECL  (lang/ecl)

With thanks, Dan 


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John Marino

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Oct 7, 2017, 8:49:16 PM10/7/17
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ECL looks sketchy.
It's already blocked on dports for "locking up during build" and the freebsd portsmon page is also showing lockups and segfaults on FreeBSD:

Does embedded lisp have a different role than SBCL lisp?  the latter can't fit all uses cases?

Dan Partelly

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Oct 8, 2017, 8:47:36 AM10/8/17
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HI John,

Does embedded lisp have a different role than SBCL lisp?  the latter can't fit all uses cases?

ECL is easily embeddable, meaning is trivial to call from C/C++ into Lisp with it. With SBCL, this is not the case. Main program is Lisp, and you can trivially call into C libraries.
The main use case if of course the one in which SBCL excels. ECL covers a niche segment.

That being said, forget ECL if it is troublesome. What is more important than a specific package is that Ravenports is solid and  sound. You covered a lot of languages and popular compilers already.

With thanks for your continuous efforts for the early adopters , Dan



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John Marino

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Oct 9, 2017, 3:54:32 PM10/9/17
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okay, I got most of these in.  I have no idea how to use slime so you'll have to let me know if it it's working as expected.
(It's 5 releases newer than what's in freebsd ports)

John Marino

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Oct 10, 2017, 9:45:13 AM10/10/17
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FYI, I'm likely going to rename the x11 driver ports once repology supports the new name.
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