Post questions for A. Trevor here:

[A. Trevor]

Please use this discussion for asking me any questions outside of
class.

[Tide]

On Jan 11, 1:01 pm, "A. Trevor" <trevorran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please use this discussion for asking me any questions outside of
> class.

A.Trevor

I have mistakenly posted the progress report into the discussion
board. Could you please delete it?

Regards

Tide

[A. Trevor]

Sorry Tide,

It appears those cannot be deleted!

Trevor

[panya visetkaew]

Can I paraphrase thai website? Since we are research information in thailand, the latest news is in thai version although there is some in English version. My thesis is about improving thai agriculture especially rice farmer. We might change the thesis while we find more info.

 

Sorry that i post my process to Phantastic Phive group late coz i don't know how to post until just now. i been trying to figure it out along time due to the fact that i never use gmail before.

Panya Visetkaew (section3)

Your Sincerely

 

2009/2/5 A. Trevor <trevor...@gmail.com>

[A. Trevor]

Yes,

Thai websites are actually easier to paraphrase since you
automatically have to change sentence structure and interpret
meaning. I suppose its still possible to plagiarize so try to change
it a bit if you can.

bring this up in class so we can discuss with everyone.

no problem on late post

t

On Feb 8, 10:49 pm, panya visetkaew <panyamiss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can I paraphrase thai website? Since we are research information in
> thailand, the latest news is in thai version although there is some in
> English version. My thesis is about improving thai agriculture especially
> rice farmer. We might change the thesis while we find more info.
>
> Sorry that i post my process to Phantastic Phive group late coz i don't know
> how to post until just now. i been trying to figure it out along time due to
> the fact that i never use gmail before.
>
> Panya Visetkaew (section3)
> Your Sincerely
>

> 2009/2/5 A. Trevor <trevorran...@gmail.com>

[Cern]

A.Trevor

I find a Thai version book that gives many interesting views about the
freedom of Thai press [I'm doing a censorship]

am i able to use it as a source?
is it too risky to plagiarize?

Regards,

[Om]

Dear ajarn,

Our group 'Irresistible' is confronting a slight problem that is,
unfortunately, unlikely to be solved without your opinion.

We have modified an outline after the meeting last afternoon which
everyone agreed upon, however, one of the members (not it!) insists on
reasoning that our research paper 'Public Spaces' should merely be
focused on a 'park'.

The outline modification has been posted in our group forum. Could you
please kindly suggest whether focusing on such matter would be
appropriate? The majority voted it down, very blatantly, but we would
rather not ignore the minor voice. The subject will not make any
further agreement unless either of us is convinced.

We would very much appreciate your help.

Kind regards,
Om

[A. Trevor]

Well, I would say that its still early and you can do research on both
parks and other public spaces
then, if you realized that parks are the most important you can still
discuss others as "you might think that a, b, or c are equally
important, but..." and then discuss them
or
parks will certainly be an important part of it so that team member
can focus on that aspect as part of the larger essay

but as i say, its still somewhat early, and its not like a total
change of topic
so keep digging and taking notes for another week and see if anyone
changes their minds based on what research you discover

[Mark]

A. Trevor,

I want to ask you about how to cite pdf files from the internet. I've
looked through the files that you've posted but there seems to be
nothing about citing pdf files. I've also tried looking on the
internet but all they give you for search results are how to cite MLA
in a pdf file. It would be of much help to our group if you can help
us find a way to cite pdf files on the internet.

Mark

[panya visetkaew]

To Mr. Trevor

 

I am wondering how to cite PDF, here are some ways i found on the internet and i am not sure if they are the right one or not. Please explain if i am wrong.

 

 

Print or PDF article in a weekly magazine

Cohen, Hennig. "Why Isn't Melville for the Masses?" Saturday Review 16 Aug.

1969: 19-21.

 

Print or PDF article in a scholarly journal

Christie, James F. "Sociodramatic Play Training." Young Children 37 (1982): 25-32.

2009/2/14 Mark <arus...@hotmail.com>

[Ahm]

I descended into the underground zone of the campus having an attempt
to get my individual research started. I had a heap of books around my
arms wondering how much these will be put into use. I was wondering if
the topic is to be only conducted under cultural sphere. Could is
possibly be something else -- say, revolution, war implication,
related history,etc. You answer will be much valuable.

Regards. :Q

[A. Trevor]

it would help if you were more specific
if you were doing cambodia, i would allow you to write about the khmer
rouge era genocide
if thats what you mean
that is still a unique thing in regards to cambodia though not
specifically culture

[Cern]

Is there any possibility of changing an individual topic?

Or it is only when I cannot find enough info?

[maluli]

Mr. Trevor, i found a bunch of interesting articles on The Natinos
about teh Thai social security system, but the majority of them does
not reveal teh publishing date. Should I just leave publishing date
information vacant on the source cards and write down the date that I
found teh sources?

[A. Trevor]

internet stories?
then i guess the url and the date you read them would be fine

[sirn...@gmail.com]

Dear, Aj. Travor
I've got a question for the individual paper. I picked Nepal as my
topic but I've got a problem finding the cultural issues because they
are mostly about religious practice. for me, it's not very interesting
thing to write about. however, through my research, i found so many
interesting articles about the Maoist party and the end of Nepali
Monarchy.

so do you have any suggestion if it possible to focus on the issue
i've mentioned

Regards
Nath

[A. Trevor]

Thats fine.
Its unique to Nepal.
try and get a suitable thesis to work around

[choc]

From :Irresistible group
This is the link for our newest outline:
http://www.uploadd.com/download.aspx?pku=3EEDA54D059S[BMMJSTE13SVDEEGC9

This is the link for our newest survey question:
http://www.uploadd.com/download.aspx?pku=3EEDA54D05L2AL5GXRP1H2MWZTLM9T

This is our updated survey question would you please suggest our
newest survey ques so,we can do our survey soon.

thank you

[Nui]

Dear Aj.Trevor

We ( me and Mac) will have to miss your class tomorrow due to the
interview.
The interviewe is available at 10 o'clock in the morning and we also
have another one in the afternoon.


Could we have your permission to miss the class ?

Thank you
Nui :)

[maluli]

Mr.trevor, for the first draft, does the whole essay need t sound like
one voice, or should it be left as the person wrote it? As i am teh
editor of the group, should i polish the essay (i.e: add transitions,
change the language so that it sounds liek one person is writing it?)
or should I just correct the grammatical mistakes? =)

[A. Trevor]

I wouldnt obsess over consistent voice or grammar too much at this
point
cant hurt to fix some grammar here and there so you save time editing
the final
but i wouldnt worry too much about voice and perfect transitions
between authors as this may not be the final final organization: i
might suggest some changes or we may decide break up certain
paragraphs and what not
its just a first draft

[maluli]

Mr.Trevor, so we should switch it around so that its always US first
and then Thailand? because if we did that, then we could first explain
how the US's system works and compare it how it currently works in
Thailand and then propose a change for the system in thailand.

[panya visetkaew]

Hi Aj. Trevor

For my Indy thesis, i find it's so difficult to find information about Iraq. I tried to look for Kurdistan, wrestling, and even shia religion. I find alot information about shia, but it's all about the history, belief, and practice, which is very boring stuff. There is rare about Kurdistan and i couldn't write an essay on it. Most information talk about the conflict, war, oil, politic, and different ethnic groups. Well, i think it's very complicated to understand what they are trying to say. It would take me more than months to understand them. The information is so huge that i could break it into thesis.

So if i could change to another country that you see fit and i can find alot of information about. Could you recommend the country to me. I spend many days and hour sitting in front of the computer searching google about Iraq, but i found not useful stuff. i am like a blind, who is waliking in the dark that i couldn't find the way out. Please, give me the light. If you can have another country, can i use the same source card and note card before?

Thank you

Panya Visetkaew

[A. Trevor]

Sure Panya,

I guess you can do a different country.
How about Khazakstan.
or maybe Chile, i dont think anyone is doing that.

What do you think?

[A. Trevor]

Sure,

dont sweat the organziation too much.
it was just a suggestion to make things logically organized

t

[Prim]

On Jan 12, 8:01 am, "A. Trevor" <trevorran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please use this discussion for asking me any questions outside of
> class.
Dear A.Trevor
As I already handed in the final outline in class, but I found
while I write the first draft that I should change my part a bit for
more information :
II. Effects and problems of teenage pregnancy
A. Effects on mother
1. wanted child
- new family
- single parents
2. unwanted child
- abortion
- child being adopted
B. Effects on society
Because I already followed this, is it better in your opinion?

[Prim]

Dear A. Trevor
As I wrote my first draft I found out that I should change it a bit in
my part,so I 'd like you to see whether it is better or not because
the former one was too narrow for me to put in the information. And
also I'd like to inform you again for' who writes what' :
Introduction ( Paron)
Cause of teenage pregnancy (Bow)
Effects and problems of teenage pregnancy ( Prim)
Solution ( Paron)
Conclusion (Paron)

[maluli]

Mr.Trevor.my sincere aoplogies but i have just received your emai this
morning. i went to bed right after i sent you the email at aroun 10 PM
last night. but i have just resent the email to you. i dont know if
its still acceptable, but please consider our paper as acceptable for
the earlyd ue date. thank- u and sorry

[Wee]

Aj.Trevor, as we sent our first draft late ay night due to the hotmail
server failed
we wish you would be sympathy on us and please accept our paper for
the early deadline.

sincerely,
Irresisitible

[Om]

Ajarn Trevor,

I would like to explain the reason that the first draft for the group
'Irresistible' arrived two minutes late yesterday. I had been out in a
fairly uncivilised area above Chiang Mai where an internet or even a
wi-fi connection is extremely rare. Everyone finished the work hours
way before the deadline, but they were waiting for me to hand the file
over. Right after arriving, despite all the possible complications in
the process, I managed to find someone with a laptop and a bluetooth
connection via Nokia service and the file was finally compiled with
the rest of group members' and sent half an hour late.

I hope that our group would still get the early credits, otherwise it
is quite unfair. It is my fault and if you are to consider the work
late, the effect ought to be upon me and please let everyone else get
the extra 10%. All of us are working very hard for your course in
spite of the fact most of us are taking 6 courses this semester. The
time management has been a real big mess.

I would appreciate your consideration and response.
Om

[Suras]

Mr. Trevor, i was wondering about the organization paper (the group
paper GREEN CHEESE)...do you mean the outline paper? that we have to
change?

[A. Trevor]

Since i made it clear not to send doc.x i cant let you escape
unpunished
you get +7.5% instead of +10%
fair?

[A. Trevor]

thats a bit lame because your group was so far ahead that you should
have handed it in by 12 pm, not 12 am.
i thought you would be done days ahead of schedule
somewhat of a disappointment from the team thats always ahead of
schedule.
anyway, i docked you the same as the people who sent docx before the
deadline and doc in the morning
+7.5% instead of +10%

[A. Trevor]

huh?

[maluli]

thank-you

[maluli]

thank-you

[sirn...@gmail.com]

Aj.Travor. I was sick and didn't go to the university today.

Can I send the final outline to you via e-mail?
or should i turn it in to you tomorrow at the university?
thanks
Nath

[sirn...@gmail.com]

Aj.Travor. I was sick and didn't go to the uni today
Can i turn in my final outline via e-mail or should i hand in to you
tomorrow at the uni ?

thanks
Nath

[sirn...@gmail.com]

thanks for lighten me up Aj.Travor I've post it in "file" and now
reporting it here.

mission accomplish
Nat

[Blair]

A. Trevor.

I want to ask you why the "Wooomm!!" group has got only 7.5%
of the extra point? because we're sure that we handed it in time.

Thank you.

[A. Trevor]

I think you are right.
I havent recorded the grades so we can fix at our group meeting.
Trevor

[panya visetkaew]

 

I have pdf sources and I don't actually know how to write these sources. Could you help to figure this our please?

 

http://iis-db.stanford.edu/pubs/20214/wimmer.pdf

http://www.iraqwararchive.org/data/apr16/US/wp12.pdf

http://www.fes.de/IPG/inhalt_d/pdf/07_Broening_US.pdf

http://www.usip.org/pubs/specialreports/sr108.pdf

 

Thank You

[A. Trevor]

did you try google "MLA parenthetical citation pdf" ?
otherwise one of those files in groups:files should explain how to do
pdf citation

[Korn W]

A.Trevor,

I have three articles that have similar names also without authors which are
   
     "The Western Wall",
     "Western Wall, Jerusalem"  and
     "The Western Wall (Wailing Wall)"

so, I don't know how to cite them in the final draft
and how to write them in the e-bibliography.

Could you help me to figure it out, please.

Thank you for your kindness.

Korn

[Korn W]

Ajarn Trevor,

Thank you for your suggestion.

Sincerely,

Korn

[panya visetkaew]

Hi Aj. Trevor

 

I think you havn't told us how to cite interview and survey, so can we just do the same

way as you told us before (I) and (S)

 

Thank you

[A. Trevor]

Good question to ask in group tomorrow.
I believe for interviews you should use parentetical citation if you
paraphrase, but not if you quote and put thier name in the text.
However, you must put the interview in the bibliography/works
refernced
for the survey you should introduce the survey the first time you
mention it "a survey of 100 working mothers or whatever..." and
thereafter refer to it as "the survey" and no parenthetical citation
is needed. However, you must put the survey in the bibliography/works
referenced page.

[Wee]

Hello, Aj.Trevor

This is the sample bibliography of survey and interview that I'm not
quite sure,
so could you please check it for me?
Bibliography:

INTERVIEW


Puapiriyapan, Kuakul(Editor of Baan lae Suan Publishing). I don't
understand what is PERSONAL INTERVIEW, 5
March 2009
Siriwechadaruk, Tipapan(Lumpini Park manager). PERSONAL INTERVIEW, 9
March 2009


SURVEY


Gruaysuwan, Kunutwara and others/Or it can be the group's name. "A
survey of 100 Lumpini Park's users". 28 Feb. 2009.

Thank you very much

[Wee]

Aj.Trevor

As my group got many articles from one website and I'm not sure how to
cite them correctly,
so could you please help to figure it out?

Due to the fact from New York City Department of Parks and Recreation
or NYCDPR, it proves that Olmstead’s purpose in constructing Central
Park is achieved, as the most frequently visited park, with a number
of 25 million visitors annually (“Find a Park: Central Park”).

Free educational tour is also offered to park users, thus, enables
them to learn more about the history of the park and its construction
(NYCDPR “Events”).

Urban park rangers are stationed at Ranger Stations to inform park
users about necessary environmental and animal care (NYCDPR “Urban
Park Ranges”).

and these are the works cited;
New York City Department of Parks and Recreation. “Events.”
Nycgovparks. 8 Feb. 2009 < http://www.nycgovparks.org/park/centralpark/events>.
New York City Department of Parks and Recreation. “Find a Park:
Central Park.” Nycgovparks. 8 Feb. 2009 <http://www.nycgovparks.org/
park/centralpark>.
New York City Department of Parks and Recreation. “Urban Park Ranges.”
Nycgovparks. 8 Feb. 2009 <http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_about/
parks_divisions/urban_park
_rangers/pd_ur.html>.

[A. Trevor]

As you sent this and I received it on the last day before the
exam....I dont know how you will have time to fix it.

You were supposed to bring such questions up at the group meeting on
Tuesday, or any time in the weeks since.
my post suggested you post this too me...
Maybe if I saw this yesterday I would have time to reply...
but right now its a bit late...
sorry!
Try "files" and using google to find out....
do your best.
A. Trevor

[Cern]

A. Trevor,

I would like to inform you that an e-mail "CernIndyFirstDraft" with an
attached file named "CernIndyFirstDraft.doc" was my indy final paper.

I accidently sent it without changing the name of both e-mail subject
and the attached file.

I apologized for my mistake.

Your Sincerely,

Cern