2 <3 Dog Group <3

[A. Trevor]

Use this discussion to tell your team what you have been doing on the
group paper:

[maluli]

interesting sites for social security information in Thailand
1.
http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:aCVVUTi5AZkJ:www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/progdesc/ssptw/2006-2007/asia/thailand.pdf+social+security+system+in+thailand&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&client=firefox-a
2.
http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:gksdv7vbZnsJ:www.ier.hit-u.ac.jp/pie/Japanese/discussionpaper/dp2003/dp201/text.pdf+social+security+system+in+thailand&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a

[maluli]

More links about pension plan/social security in Thailand
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=30067562&keyword=retirees
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=30068751&keyword=retirees
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=30093934&keyword=retirees
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=30095108&keyword=social++security

[Few :)]

On Feb 3, 5:26 pm, "A. Trevor" <trevorran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Use this discussion to tell your team what you have been doing on the
> group paper:

pls try to check the information on e-library.. i had found one
sources which is very interesting!
http://www.ier.hit-u.ac.jp/pie/Japanese/discussionpaper/dp2003/dp201/text.pdf
http://www.expatfocus.com/expatriate-thailand-social-security

[ploy]

http://law.tu.ac.th/law_center/law_document/book2/b2-8.html

http://www.sso.go.th/content.php?menu_id=1&content_id=86

[ploy]

http://www.sso.go.th/content.php?menu_id=1&content_id=86

http://law.tu.ac.th/law_center/law_document/book2/b2-8.html

[Aimy:)]

interesting sources jaaaa:):)

http://sunsite.au.ac.th/thailand/thai_gov/Labour/social.html
http://www.expatfocus.com/expatriate-thailand-social-security
http://www.ccusa.co.th/social.html

[carla]

<3 dog group!!!
here's some graph that i found... might be use full..

AND THISS!!!
http://www.socialsecurity.com/
it looks soooo official.. and its got many other links (of other
countried) u can access to too...


goodluck guys... see u tmr naaaa :)

[maluli]

hey i foudn some more links. and i foudn several other very useful
sites about teh social security in thailand with statistics. Ill post
those ones up tomorrow morning but here are some more very usefull
websites....

http://senior-spectrum.com/news02_021009/
http://www.mercer.com/referencecontent.htm?idContent=1257315
on benefits on SS: http://www.finance.cch.com/sohoApplets/SocialSecurity.asp
inetersting blog http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/135840/minister-urges-social-security-cuts
VIEWS OF JOE BIDEN< OBAMA< AND MCCAIN ON SOCIAL security in America:
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.socialsecurity.html
Thailand' social security official website: http://www.sso.go.th/english/index.php
opinions on social security: http://www.aarp.org/money/social_security/
very cute vdo clip on how social security works:
http://www.flowgo.com/funny/11688_social-security-musical.html
facts on social security in US: http://www.justfacts.com/socialsecurity.asp#Benefits
explaining what social secuirty is : http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-social-security.htm
pension plan in thailand: http://www.mercer.com/referencecontent.htm?idContent=1249795
http://thailand.prd.go.th/view_inside.php?id=1851

[Few :)]

On Feb 3, 5:26 pm, "A. Trevor" <trevorran...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Use this discussion to tell your team what you have been doing on the
> group paper:

today.. ive already ask my dad abt Thai Security System
and he'll bring the useful books for us very very soon :)

And i looked for some more book which ill bring it tmr
to discuss wth you whether they were helpful or not!

[maluli]

Ive foudn some more useful sites that wil give us all a better
explanation of SS programs in the US. It is very difficult for me to
find links for the current pension program in thailand as i cannot
type Thai so i will have to leave that responsibility to you guys.=)
http://seniors-site.com/finances/summary.html

here are a list of links from the USA gov. that provides insights to
security benefits for the elderly:
http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Seniors/Health.shtml
http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Seniors/Housing.shtml
http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Seniors/Taxes.shtml
http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Seniors/Retirement.shtml

here is a link that clearly explains how SS works and adresses teh
problems within the system:
http://seniorjournal.com/NEWS/SocialSecurity/5-05-09HowSocialSecurityWorks.htm

frequently asked questions about SS:
http://www.federationofseniors.org/social_security_faq.php

essay promoting SS:
http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/199666/home_security/elder_care_benefits_and_social_security.html

GREAT website on SS:
http://www.retiresecure.org/Social-Security/

[ploy]

Maluliiiii, Do not worry about Thai information. I went to a library
today and borrowed a few books already. They give information about
the system, history of SS in Thailand which i think it's very useful
data. I will try to make 5 slugs tonight and another half way
tomorrow.

guys.don't forget we have a meeting after lunch!

[maluli]

i foudn a list of thai websites last night but i have some problem
reading the text so we can do it togetehr during our break tomorrow!=)
http://www.bloggang.com/viewdiary.php?id=kasarp&month=09-2006&date=13&group=1&gblog=56
http://www.thaitaxinfo.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=article&Id=%20538778922
http://www.sso.go.th/faq.php?menu_id=2&content_id=217&q_id=149
http://www.sso.go.th/faq.php?menu_id=2&content_id=217&q_id=153
http://www.sso.go.th/faq.php?menu_id=2&content_id=217&q_id=154
http://www.sso.go.th/faq.php?menu_id=2&content_id=217&q_id=155
http://www.sso.go.th/content.php?content_id=110&menu_id=2
http://www.sso.go.th/content.php?content_id=113&menu_id=2
http://www.sso-chiangrai.in.th/Howto/table_7.htm
http://region7.prd.go.th/asp/view_news.asp?GID=7222

[Aimy:)]

more links :):)

http://hilight.kapook.com/view/19830
www.pattayadailynews.com/thai/showfeature.php?featureID=222

[Few :)]

On Feb 3, 5:26 pm, "A. Trevor" <trevorran...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Use this discussion to tell your team what you have been doing on the
> group paper:

http://www.dailynews.co.th/web/html/popup_news/Default.aspx?Newsid=171302&NewsType=1&Template=1

[Few :)]

On Feb 3, 5:26 pm, "A. Trevor" <trevorran...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Use this discussion to tell your team what you have been doing on the
> group paper:

http://classroom.hu.ac.th/faq/faq.asp?faqid=%7BEB67ECB4-FDB1-4647-AEBC-166B5806CAD5%7D&close=N

[Aimy:)]

http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/index.asp
http://www.opm.gov/retire/post/index.asp
http://www.ipsr.mahidol.ac.th/ipsr/StaffProfile_TH.aspx?id=14

[carla]

i think.. thai links should be enough now yea? from what maluli has
posted...
guy i'll try to find more website bout statistic yeah..
and tomorrow... 150 note cards DUE! don't forget...
PS> AIMY.. both of us have to go for the 15 mins meeting with mr.
trevor.. dun forget.. 2.15 SHARP... the rest of the group member can
go chill in siam hahah
and guys.. study for tmr's imd-term exam too! good luck!!
xx

[carla]

this is the websit about social security..
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php?p_li=&p_page=1&p_cv=2.1&p_pv=&p_prods=&p_cats=3%2C1&p_hidden_prods=&cat_lvl1=3&cat_lvl2=1&p_search_text=&p_new_search=1&p_search_type=answers.search_nl
its a longgg lnk about try www.socialsecurity.gov
xx

[maluli]

hey u guys, can you do your 10 note cards by monday? so that we can
have time to make sure there arent any mistakes. PLUS i can also do
the bibliography page and make sure teh information is all correct:).
We finished 10 survey questions for the experts today=). Thai with
english translation. i know this week is quite hectic but we're almost
through=). Ill post up some more links tomorrow morning.... toodles!

[Few :)]

On Feb 3, 5:26 pm, "A. Trevor" <trevorran...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Use this discussion to tell your team what you have been doing on the
> group paper:

hey maluli... im working on the notecards things yu lae :))

in USA
http://www.questia.com/read/15304773?title=Social%20Security%20in%20Global%20Perspective
http://www.questia.com/read/15461858?title=Social%20Security%20and%20Medicare%3a%20A%20Policy%20Primer

In thailand
http://www.questia.com/read/101159851?title=Reforming%20Social%20Security%20for%20Ourselves%20and%20Our%20Posterity

[maluli]

few feww=). i did 8 last night on the books we re-borrowed from the
library.
I found some more very useful editorials and information on THE NATION
multimedia

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=58491&keyword=pension+plan+elderly

This one is on teh pension program when Thaksin was teh PM:8
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=80738&keyword=pension+plan+elderly

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=96539&keyword=pension+plan+elderly

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=97750&keyword=pension+plan+elderly

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=30008758&keyword=pension+plan+elderly

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=30006629&keyword=pension+plan+elderly

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=30025426&keyword=pension+plan+elderly

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=30051386&keyword=pension+plan+elderly

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/read.php?newsid=30053182&keyword=pension+plan+elderly

[ploy]

**ARTICLES FROM CNN NEWS

- Where should i save retirement money
http://money.cnn.com/retirement/guide/basics_basics.moneymag/index2.htm

- How much money will I need in retirement
http://money.cnn.com/retirement/guide/basics_basics.moneymag/index5.htm

-Why should I wait past age 62 to start collecting?
http://money.cnn.com/retirement/guide/SocialSecurity_basics.moneymag/index8.htm

-Will Social Security still exist when I retire?
http://money.cnn.com/retirement/guide/SocialSecurity_basics.moneymag/index18.htm

-Does Social Security cover retirees only?
http://money.cnn.com/retirement/guide/SocialSecurity_basics.moneymag/index2.htm

-Am I eligible for Social Security benefits?
http://money.cnn.com/retirement/guide/SocialSecurity_basics.moneymag/index4.htm

[Aimy:)]

http://www.oppo.opp.go.th/info/network.htm
Empowerment for power persons:)

http://www.thaimtb.com/cgi-bin/viewkatoo.pl?id=158681
barn pak kon cha ra all around thailand..

http://www.eldercarethailand.com/

http://www.centa-care.com/
In chiang mai jao:):)

[ploy]

-Protecting Your Retirement And Health Benefits
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/publications/dislocated_workers_brochure.html

-Compliance Assistance
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/compliance_assistance.html

-To qualify for benefits, you must meet a strict definition of
disability
http://www.360financialliteracy.org/Life+Stages/Retirement/Articles/Social+Security/Social+Security+disability+benefits.htm

-SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT BENEFITS
http://www.360financialliteracy.org/Life+Stages/Retirement/Articles/Social+Security/Social+Security+retirement+benefits.htm

-SOCIAL SECURITY SURVIVOR'S BENEFITS
http://www.360financialliteracy.org/Life+Stages/Retirement/Articles/Social+Security/Social+Security+survivors+benefits.htm

[ploy]

guys, i am already done with my 10 note cards.
so right now i have like 10 source cards also, is it okay maluli?

[ploy]

Right now, i'm done with the 10 note cards that hands tomorrow.
and also have got like 10 source cards, is it okay maluliiiii?

[Aimy:)]

http://www.centa-care.com/position.php
http://www.centa-care.com/services.php
http://hhc.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/19/2/112?rss=1
http://www.centa-care.com/main.php
http://www.eldercarethailand.com/
http://www.oppo.opp.go.th/info/network.htm

This is it!!
ignored my previous reply na bua:)

[carla]

"RETIREMENT BENEFITS"
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10035.html
here's one that i'm working on..
its about the benefits that retirements are getting.

[carla]

guys, tomorrow.. meeting with mr. trevor... 2.45pm SHARP! please
bethere... not just me and aimy this time.. but everyone...
get ur source+note cards ready.. see you tomrrow... :) nite nitee

[carla]

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10035.html
"RETIREMENT BENEFIT"
i found a lot of facts from this website.. and i'm still working on
it..
i'm sure you guys are working ur urs to..
GOOD LUCK! :)
tomorrow... get all ur note cards and source cards ready..
and please be at the class at 2.45pm SHARP!
not just me and aim this time.. but EVERYONE!
ps. guys... dont forget 5 source cards for your own indy paper
nite nitee :)
xxx

[ploy]

- How does Social Security Work?
http://money.cnn.com/retirement/guide/SocialSecurity_basics.moneymag/index.htm

[Few :)]

BACKGROUNG AND HISTORY OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY PROGRAM IN USA.
http://usinfo.org/enus/government/social/ch9.htm

RETIREES PLANNER IN USA
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/retire2/applying1.htm

MALULI ... I DUN KNOW WHETHER THS SITE IS WORK OR NOT!
SO IF UR FREE PLS CHECK IT OUT!
ITS ALL ABT OBAMA POLICY ON RETIEMENT IN USA
ANW HOPE IT WILL BE USEFULL :):)
http://seniorhousingnews.com/

[Aimy:)]

LASt one!!

www.liveinbangkok.co./forum/index.php?topic=43340

[ploy]

-The Democrats Want to Raise Social Security Taxes
http://www.socialsecurity.org/

-Social Security:The Clock is Ticking
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/security/security.htm

-Seniors and Social Security
http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/seniors/

[Aimy:)]

http://janjow.exteen.com/20080909/entry
http://www.konjaidee.com/node/1059
http://www.konjaidee.com/taxonomy/term/299
http://www.konjaidee.com/node/412
http://www.banphoklang.com/


T_T

[Aimy:)]

http://www.konjaidee.com/node/1059
http://www.banphoklang.com/

I used only these 2 sources na..

[maluli]

More articles from the nations
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/04/12/national/national_30031723.php
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/07/23/national/national_30041958.php
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/06/04/national/national_30035921.php
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/04/03/national/national_30030955.php
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/06/20/national/national_30037346.php
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/04/13/national/national_30031813.php

Hello doggies. so we are going to conduct a survey at the elderly home
on saturday morning right? Remember. today there is no group meeting.
We attend regular class!

[maluli]

Ive done some notecards on the new updated book on social security
which we were kindly given to by the professor. I will finish the
notecards on that book by teh end of this week so that we can return
the book to him. So Ploywaen and carla will do the transcript for
thursday's interviewe, phil and aimy will make the transcript for
Retirement home interview, and i will do the one for this coming
Wednesday. It's been a hectic week due to exams and presentations but
we're almost through!!!=) see you guys this afternooooon!

[maluli]

I emailed you guys the outline already okay?:) please check it.
remember when your writing you need to constantly be aware or
comparing and contrasting the information. P.S: aimy n phil don't
forge transcripts for Tuesday ok?=)

[Few :)]

yeahhh i got it aleady btw we r goin to made it in Thai ..right?
malulii and r u still doin the last expert's interviewww ...im kinda
confused 5555
btw let me know doeyy na :)

[ploy]

anyone please format file for me tee. i cannot open the file that bua
sent to me a. her version is too new. haaaaaahaha.

[Aimy:)]

errrrrrrrr the file that few had sent us is the same as te bua sent ma
right??
and ohhhh i sent the voicenotes from the group interview and the
second expert to u guys leaw najaaaa:):)
incase if anyone need more info najaaaaa:):)

bua* Do u still wanna do the second expert's interview in english??
hahahaha lets us know duay nahaaa

few* Lets finished the transcript gun terrrr:):)

work hard najaaa u guys
<3 u all my dogs

[Aimy:)]

ohhh dogs dont forget!!!! 10 more notecards and 15 source cards for ur
indy paper duay naaaaaa:):)

[maluli]

everyone who has write on teh US part of the essay please read this
link
http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:SyCWkGRzwQAJ:www.actuary.org/pdf/socialsecurity/reform_07.pdf+social+security+options+USA&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3
its extremely helpful!!

[maluli]

btw pw..i already emailed u a formatted version this morning
aimy: up to you guys if u want me to translate the file because im
not going to use the interview. PW please email me the part that uve
already translated!!

[ploy]

Maluliiiiiiiiiiiiiii. i sent you the translated interview to your e-
mail leaw na ha!
hope you enjoy my poor english! haaaahaha!

[Aimy:)]

BUA* yes pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.. if u r not busy.. hahaa
blinkblinkkkKK***
EAT* can you send the transcript to me duay please? i need more
info:):)
FEW* wanna working on the transcript tonite??........ or tmr?? give me
a call k;);)

thank you and LOVE na:)

[maluli]

everyone please make sure u finish all your essays no later than
midnight of tuesday. Because iw ill need at least oen day (wednesday)
to edit the stuff because it will be alot. Aimy, send me ur translated
Thai version so that i can translate it ok?please no later than monday

[Aimy:)]

okay haaaaaaaaa khun mamieee:):)
my second mom

[Aimy:)]

BUA* I e-mailed my translated thai version of the group interview to
you leaw naa:):)
and also my part of the research paper leaw duay na:):)

i am a hard working student mai ja mamieee?? hahahaaaa

p.s. can you open the voicenote of the second expert tht i sent??
<3dogs

[A. Trevor]

About your OUTLINE:

IV
C
why is 1: America and 2: Thailand?

your paper always Thailand first and then America
also same issue for VI A and B.

minor issue.

larger issue is that you are supposed to be advocating change in
Thailand
I dont know that you need to propose suggestions for how America is
going to fix its problem

good luck writing!

[carla]

hellloo... gruop paper is a bit chilled now ye? dont forget ur
notecards tmr.. plus 5 more cource cards na jaaa..... n also the new
outline for aj trevorrrr

[maluli]

my heart dogs. im so sorry about our paper. i mistakenly converted teh
file to another doc. which wasnt what mr.trevor asked for. So we will
only be getting a 7.5% instead of a 10% extra on our first draft. IM
really sorry:(.... when we get out paper back with comments tomorrow ,
lets work hard to score high for our final draft. sorry again......
see u 2moro!

[Few :)]

Ohhh.. rlly :(:(
its okayyy maluliiii... we gnn make it!
btw last Tuesday i was ill so anyth. update??
anw see u tmr girlss xx

[maluli]

doggies. is ent you all the commented first draft from mr.trevor.
please dont forget to print a hard copy of teh frist draft to out
group meeting thsi tuesday, 2-2:30.we still need to make lots of
imrprovements so be prepared for another 2 week of WORK!!

[Few :)]

Ohhh... ive recieved the feedback alreadyyy.
we needed to find more information na.
anw c u tmr na jaaaaaaaaaaa.

[ploy]

maululiiiiiiiii.
i got the feedback already.seems like we still have to improve it a
lot!
anyway, we'll discuss about this tomorrow ,right?
see youuuuuuuuuuu!

[maluli]

hey eeveryone. we'll talk about our group paper again on tuesday
evening. is that okay? so i can tell you guys how we could all improve
our parts and make the paper sound more integrated=)! goodluck with ur
indy paperss!

[maluli]

guys, im almost done editing. Only the intro and concluding
paeragrapgh to go!!!! yay!!!=). Il email the paper to u as soon as im
done!!! ^ ^ enjoy the rest of ur hollidays

[Few :)]

YEAHHHHHHHHHH..hh!
we've done so good so far.
Malulli tmr is the day leaw naaaa :)
ployy ill be ur kum lung jai naa :)