2 Green Cheese Group

[A. Trevor]

Use this discussion to tell your team what you have been doing on the
group paper:

[Tide]

here are some sites i've found...

http://www.thaiskale.com/archives/battery.html
http://www.icis.com/Articles/2006/05/19/2014122/thai-toxic-dumping-challenge.html
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/11165

[Tide]

"The Automatic Bibliography & Citation Maker" From book to website,
anything we need for the research paper writing...

>>>> http://www.easybib.com/#sourceList

[Tide]

I've found some of the Laws in Thailand about the environmental
protection, do you all think we should use that for our paper?? I'll
be the translator, I just want to ask for the green light for you all.

Here is the example

http://www.chachoengsao.go.th/database/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=152&Itemid=96

Click on the topic "
พระราชบัญญัติส่งเสริมและรักษาคุณภาพสิ่งแวดล้อมแห่งชาติ พ.ศ.2535 " Then
you should see the download window popin' up... just open it, do not
save.


Steve Shady =)

[NIN]

I think it's great idea to look into the Laws in Thailand too, so it
will give our paper more weight of reality.
Also thank you for your offering to translate for us! Goodjob Tide
('v')
Anyway, I will continue to check the e-bibli that you sent to me so
they will be ready for Aj. Trevor to check tomorrow.

See you tomorrowwwwww

Nin

Ps. I'm still exhuasted from the Open House and havn't done any other
thing productive just yet!

[NIN]

I have found something interesting!!
They could be useful in our paper.
What do you think, guys?

"Now, a device that converts toxic waste into electricity"
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/now-a-device-that-converts-toxic-waste-into-electricity_10010302.html

Regulations on toxic waste dumping weak
http://infoterra.deqp.go.th/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=105


Nin

[NIN]

Tide,
Get well realli soon na dude!
We have got more homework,
which is to do another 10 note cards!!!
&we have to make a list of slugs system too,,
I will explain to you later in the group meeting tomorrow okay?

Take care,

Nin

[Suras]

Hey guys,
These are the two website that I found it very straight forward. It
may help us to think of other changes as well.
http://biology.kenyon.edu/slonc/bio3/2001projects/Superfundkdanis/humanhealth.html
http://science.jrank.org/pages/3236/Hazardous-Wastes-Waste-prevention.html

Right now, what we have to do is another 10 note cards like Nin said
and 3 more sources would be good.
We will have a little chat or a meeting at school so Tide will know
what we are doing.
It would be great to have a meeting with you guys everyday so we can
upgrade each day. So this is what we will do from now on alright my
workers or friends?

[NIN]

E- Bibliography Updated 17FEB09

14) http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/society/wastedisposal.htm

15) http://www.thaihealth.or.th/node/1984

16) http://teenet.tei.or.th/DatabaseGIS/hazard_manage_thai.html

17) http://www.epa.gov/ebtpages/wasthazardouswaste.html

18) http://www.siamhrm.com/?name=hr&file=read&max=1000

19) http://www.thaiskale.com/archives/battery.html

20) http://www.reo09.go.th/main/law_environment/law_pesticde_solid.asp

21) http://www.icis.com/Articles/2006/05/19/2014122/thai-toxic-dumping-challenge.html

22) http://www.chachoengsao.go.th/database/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=152&Itemid=96

23) http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/11165

35) http://biology.kenyon.edu/slonc/bio3/2001projects/Superfundkdanis/humanhealth.html

36) http://science.jrank.org/pages/3236/Hazardous-Wastes-Waste-prevention.html

[NIN]

Outline Updated 17FEB09

Green Cheese*

Topic: Hazardous Waste Recycles in Thailand
Thesis Statement: In order to reduce the toxic waste, Thai government
should take actions.

Outline:
Effect of the toxic waste
- Environmental
- Health
Problems in Thailand waste disposal system
In the comparison to American waste disposal system
The government actions
- Education
- Regulations and Laws
- Improve/ Upgrade the old disposal system

[Suras]

I have new sources for you Nin and for everyone else to check it up:

http://wmr.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/8/1/129
http://www.tdri.or.th/library/quarterly/text/hazard.htm
http://www.popline.org/docs/1386/160205.html
http://www.americanscience.org/journals/am-sci/0202/09-0140-panyaping.doc

[Tang]

Oh finally i just got accepted from the google service !!!

i had borrowed 10 books from the library which are pretty interesting
but not much info... hoho
check it out at school guys !

[NIN]

Congratulations Tang!

Hey, don't forget to choose the name of at least 2 experts
and some non-experts for the class later on today na!!
Also, I think we should discuss to improve our outline again,
it should be more detailed I think.

[Tang]

hey guys

i think tomorrow i'm going to the national library la
because in school library we have took all interesting book
hope i'm gonna find some thing good for us there and also
for my indy work too.
Nin, sorry for my mistake about source card and note card
promise not gonna make you coufuse againnnnnn :)))))

- 10 note cards > group
- 5 source card > indy
RIGHT ???

[Tide]

Here are the links about the environmental issue in Thailand focus on
the hazardous waste issue.

1. http://wmr.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/8/1/129
2.http://www.tdri.or.th/library/quarterly/text/hazard.htm

The first link is nothing but a short useful article but the second
one would be very useful for the further research. Hence, I will
looking for some more interesting source from the internet and they
will be posted as soon as I acquire them

Regards

Steve S.

[NIN]

How did the trip go Tang?
Did you get any more up-to-date book?
I hope you did.
Anyway, guys I think it is time we revised our slugs and outline.
I mean as soon as possible, we are little behind, aren't we Captain?
Should not we have a meeting or something?

[Tide]

Gather up at common approx. 0800 due to expected traffic congestion
according to the report states that there will be a demonstration from
Sanam Luang to the parliament tomorrow. I have to check up my
notecards and slugs with Nin.

May the force and the Lord be with you in this holy night of
"Notecards"

Hail Notecards !!!!!

[Tang]

Here is the E- Bibliography Updated from me follow these link na ja

1) http://www.en.mahidol.ac.th/HWM/index.html

[NIN]

Tide!!!
Your links are the same with Suras's ah
which she posted on the 17th Feb 09

Everyone: Don't forget to cross check the links before you use it!!!

I will post the updated e-bib for you guys tomorrow.

Ps. do post the links that you have already used in here as you goes
on,
because we might have went on the same links so we will end up with
same information, watch out!

[NIN]

http://ohioline.osu.edu/cd-fact/0102.html
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/now-a-device-that-converts-toxic-waste-into-electricity_10010302.html
http://cool-palimpsest.stanford.edu/waac/wn/wn06/wn06-2/wn06-205.html

[NIN]

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/building-pyramids-to-help-dispose-trash_10057207.html

[Suras]

I thought of having the meeting yesterday right after school, but i
forgot to tell you guys earlier. But we'll be talking about it today
in the morning instead. I think we are kind of behind a little but I
think we can make it. Last but not least, I'll try to keep things
upgrade and to let everyone know before ahead of time. alright guys?

[Suras]

here it is guys:

www.hiso.or.th/hiso/picture/reportHealth/ThaiHealth2007/ENG2007-Health-Indicators7.pdf
-
life.zzu.edu.cn/ifiledownload.asp?idc=397
http://www.4.gu.edu.au:8080/adt-root/public/adt-QGU20070717.113215/index.html
portal.acs.org/portal/PublicWebSite/careers/whatchemistsdo/careers/
CTP_003392

[NIN]

Ps. WHEN ANYONE POST THEIR LINKS, PLEASE POST IT IN FULL URL FORM !!!
SO THE OTHERS CAN HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE WEBPAGE !!!

[NIN]

E- Bibliography Updated 24FEB09

37) http://wmr.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/8/1/129

38) http://www.tdri.or.th/library/quarterly/text/hazard.htm

39) http://www.popline.org/docs/1386/160205.html

40) http://www.americanscience.org/journals/am-sci/0202/09-0140-panyaping.doc

41) http://www.hiso.or.th/hiso/picture/reportHealth/ThaiHealth2007/ENG2007-Health-Indicators7.pdf

42) http://life.zzu.edu.cn/ifiledownload.asp?idc=397

43) http://ohioline.osu.edu/cd-fact/0102.html

44) http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/now-a-device-that-converts-toxic-waste-into-electricity_10010302.html

45) http://cool-palimpsest.stanford.edu/waac/wn/wn06/wn06-2/wn06-205.html

46) http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/building-pyramids-to-help-dispose-trash_10057207.html

47) http://www.en.mahidol.ac.th/HWM/index.html

48) http://www.4.gu.edu.au:8080/adt-root/public/adt-QGU20070717.113215/in...

49) http://portal.acs.org/portal/PublicWebSite/careers/whatchemistsdo/careers/CTP_003392

[Tang]

czech it out !!!
interestin website from me ka

1.http://www2.diw.go.th/clipping/job8/170549/Bangkok%20Post%20Toxic
%20waste%20dumpers.pdf

2.http://library.pcd.go.th/Multimedia/News/2547/7/10/4.pdf

3.http://www.pcd.go.th/info_serv/en_hazadous.html

4.http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Environmentandgreenerliving/
Wasteandrecycling/DG_10014614

5.http://www.asms.net/rtc/199697/JamieGafford.html

tonight i must die with those questionair for sure

bless me -o-

[NIN]

TOMORROW
--> Lecture
--> GROUP - 5 note cards each. Conduct survey and interview this week
--> Indy - Preliminary Work finished (total 10 sources. 5 that are
solid)

GOD BLESS YOUUU

[Tide]

Thank you for the reminder Saaalinnn.

[Suras]

This is the outline

Topic: Hazardous waste recycles in Thailand.
Thesis: In order to reduce the toxic waste, Thai government should
take actions.

* Effect of the toxic waste
Environment
air pollution
water/contamination
Health
cancer
respiratory problems
hypertension
diseases/illness/death

These are just a part of it, there will be more but hold on to this
one first alright.

[Suras]

Here is the schedule that you guys should pay attention since there's
a new paper deadlines

Tuesday-Mar 3 Group meetings: half the groups
Indy - 20 note cards

Thursday - Mar 5 Lecture on writing drafts
read pp. 33-40 in the book before this
class!
Indy - 20 note cards

I'll be posting it more, but these are the coming up dates so i'm
reminding all of you!

[NIN]

I thought we must change the thesis!

Thesis: In order to reduce the toxic waste, Thai government should
take actions.

He said this one is not specific enough!!

[NIN]

E- Bibliography Updated 26FEB09*

50) http://www2.diw.go.th/clipping/job8/170549/Bangkok%20Post%20Toxic%20waste%20dumpers.pdf

51) http://library.pcd.go.th/Multimedia/News/2547/7/10/4.pdf

52) http://www.pcd.go.th/info_serv/en_hazadous.html

53) http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Environmentandgreenerliving/Wasteandrecycling/DG_10014614

54) http://www.asms.net/rtc/199697/JamieGafford.html

[Suras]

here is the outline:

Topic: Hazardous waste recycles in Thailand

Thesis: In order to reduce the toxic waste, Thai government

should take actions in terms of legal actions,
which lead to education, regulations and laws, and
improve/upgrade the old disposal system.
*Effect of the toxic waste
-environment
-aerial pollution
-water pollution/contamination
-health
-respiratory problem
-hypertension
-skin disorders
-cancer
*Problems in Thailand waste disposal system
-ignitable wastes
-corrosive wastes
-reactive wastes
*In the comparison to American waste disposal system
-building pyramids to help dispose trash
-convert toxic waste into electricity
*Changes in US/Thailand
-chemical controls and sustainable development
-pollution prevention
-waste dump+waste treatment facilities
-mechanical process+thermal process
*Adaptation of the US system to Thailand system
-promoting of waste minimization/environment fund
-environmental management plan
-cooporation
-improved environmental laws and regulations
*The Government Actions
-education
-management strategy
-law enforcement
-safety
-regulations and laws
-reducing+recycling waste
-use best technology to reduce exposures
-dealing with carcinogens
-benefits of a substance+cost
-improve/upgrade
-clean technology should be promoted--> reduce
pollution
-concern of health
-communities
-not separating the wastes

[Tang]

what about the questionnair, captain?
What do you think about my new one?
anything eles you want to change
let me know pleaseeeeee -o-

[Suras]

Ur questionair, Tide and i had changeed to a better one but da
questionaire right now is with Tide...I'll tell Tide to talk to you
about your questionaire alright?

[Tang]

ok ok and tomorrow morning i going to the polllution control depart.
to make an appointment, hope they not require any university document
c ya tmr guys, ready for Ame Lit. huh???
read hard !!!

[NIN]

Tang,

I sent the formal letter form I have to your e-mail already.
Check if it can be apply the appointment letter or not.
And goodluckkkkkk !!! x

[Suras]

Ok, now Tang have got her interview appointment which will be on
Friday at 2.30. I guess that Tang and Tide have to go because if
Captain have to attend, i guess it would be a bad idea. We need thai
expert which i'm not 1 and y'all know that right? Well, i mean i can
go but don't you think it will be too much if we go three? Anyways,
we'll decide today at school in the morning.

By the way, the schedule for next week:

Tuesday: Group meetings. Handing in your Primary Research
Materials
GROUP - Primary Research transcript and survey
results due

Thursday: NO CLASS = mid-term (YAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YUPPY!!!!!!)

[Tang]

Interview appointment
at 2.30pm and
we must leave around 12.30
because the place it quite far !!!

[Tide]

I'm done with the transcripts guys. Anything else i could help?

[Suras]

i think we'll stick with the old thing first, lets see what's due and
things...umm...2moro...the transcript is due and also chart(survey).
You guys should have them ready by today at uni. eh so i can check it
if its ready to be turn in by 2moro.

[Tang]

hey i'm doing my part at Uni.
anybody wanna join,huh???
c u :)))

[Suras]

I think it is too late to join...but yes do not forget to send me all
ur documents (essay part) alright guys? you guys have to send me by
tonight til tomorrow morning alright? But if you guys did not finish
it, it is okay. 10% would be a good extra credit, but if we're not
ready then we do not have to hand it in on time. I want everybody to
do their best on the essay, and do not RUSH it ok? or else our essay
will be a piece of a scrap paper. That's all i want to remind all of
you. Oh and try your best to correct your own grammar as well, i know
it is the editor's work (which is me...:S) but yes it is still your
own good to practice, so use this chance to improve yourself
rightttt!!!!

[A. Trevor]

Im not sure about the organization of the paper in the beginning.
the Tang sections mostly
maybe seeing your introduction and first draft will help me help you
reorganize it if necessary

it would help for reorganizing if you had your sections numbered

[Tang]

i have send the last interview script
to Ajarn Trevor already naaaaa
ps. tide, thanks for translated na ka
xD

[NIN]

guys,
i just got back from student committee camp,, so tired,,
but i juz wonder when shall we send the draft to editor aka Suras?
because we are planning to hand in on thursday rite?
is wednesday okay for you?
goodluck guyssssssss x

[Suras]

sorry for not replying ealier, but what do you mean about the
organization of the paper? Do you mean the outline paper?

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[Suras]

I think Wednesday (night) would be too late for me to correct it...but
it would be GOOD if you guys finish by tuesday night and then i can
look at it Wednesday morning so i can have more time to myself to
correct it. Plus, I do not have much time to do it right after the
handing in day. So I'm requesting you guys to hand it in to me by
Tuesday night or Tuesday evening, either way.

[Suras]

Or, do it today and send it by tonight would be PERFECT. But...i have
not receieve anyone's e-mail or the draft yet...i guess you guys
perhaps be doing it this week right...?

[Suras]

And sorry that I've been gone for a week, because i was at my
grandma's funeral and that i did not have time for the paper.
I think you guys already know the length for the paper, right?
1000-1250 words for each person.

[NIN]

It is okay Suras, It is totally understandable and once again I am
sorry for your loss.

Anyway, I will try to get the draft done by tonight as I will be
flying on Wednesday and we can talk about the outline tomorrow morning
as I think according to Ajarn Trevor, we seriously need to make some
changes. Therefore I look up in the note from his class lecture and it
said;

Outline Structure*

*Chronicle Order :
the way things were
the way things are
the way we should changes

*Order of importance :
5 reasons
#2
#3
#4
#5
#1
Pros (your reasons) Vs. Cons (devil's advocate)

E.g. I am right because of #3.
Some believe A.
But, #2 prooves that is not true.
Other think C.
But, #4 says not.
Plus #5.
Especially #1.

*Step Up
1. Pick a structure
2. Write a plan
3. Deligate sections (who writes what)
4. Draft
5. Think of the 3-5 mainpoints you wish to make about that sub topic
6. Write topic sentences for each one

*Writing Paragraphs
Incorporating sources
As you write your paragraphs, including header from outline


I hope these are helpful reminder for everyoneeee :)
See you tomorrow x x x

[NIN]

Ps. if anyone find more souces, don't forget to write them on saparate
source cards and hand them to me, including e-bib!!!

[Tang]

captain, i sent you my part already na ka
c you tmr
:3

[Suras]

I got our first draft back from A. Trevor yesterday. Overal, it was an
Okay draft which we do not expect a lot from it only comments from
Ajarn! but we do need to fix and put it in the chronological
order... :X

[NIN]

Yippee,,
Aj. Trevor pushed the deadlines out so we can have more time improving
our paper!
I have a lot to fix too in my part >x< !!!
How are you guys doing?
x

[NIN]

Hey Guys,

I am in a process of writing the bibliography so if any of you guys
still have not give me all the source cards you have use it in the
paper, you must give them to me by the latest THIS MONDAY,, it is very
essential for the paper!

Take careeeeee x x x x

[Suras]

Sorry guys, just got back from my holidays, and i havent update
anything yet.
However, since the holidays ended, each of us should check their part
for adding and correcting their paragraphs. This may be a lot of work
for the editor. So, be sure to be kind and nice to the editor who have
to check each paragraphs.
Oh and for Nin, sorry for the bib. i'll send it to you as soon as
possible when i get to edit my part.

Good luck to everyone alright!

[NIN]

From Ajarn Trevor:

"I believe for interviews you should use parentetical citation if you
paraphrase them or quote them without referring to their name (last
name of person interviewed), but not if you quote and put their name
in the text, which is the better way to do it. However, you must put
the interview in the bibliography/works cited page at the end of your
paper.

For the survey you should introduce the survey the first time you
mention it "a survey of 100 working mothers" or whatever... and
thereafter refer to it as "the survey" followed by no parenthetical
citation. However, you must also put the survey in the bibliography/
works referenced page.

good luck with papers"

[NIN]

E- Bibliography Updated 20APR09*

55) http://www.recworcester.org/cleanenergy/pollutants.html#mercury
56)
http://department.utcc.ac.th/library/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1696:developing-a-small-garbage-disposal-car-&catid=51:research-2006&Itemid=55
57) http://www.epa.gov/osw/hazard/wastetypes/characteristic.htm

Anymoreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

[NIN]

58) http://www.swlf.ait.ac.th/data/Case%20studies/National%20report-Thailand.pdf

[Tang]

#59
unknown
"Hazardous wastes"
encarta
unknown
21 Apr 09
<http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?
refid=761580689>

[Suras]

Nin, i think that is it for mine work cite, just only those two
websites.

let me clarify

http://department.utcc.ac.th/library/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1696:developing-a-small-garbage-disposal-car-&catid=51:research-2006&Itemid=55

http://epa.gov/epawastes/hazard/wastetypes/characteristic.htm

[NIN]

59) http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=761580689

[NIN]

Here is the citations I have got so far from you all:

Suras: 56, 57
Tang: 5, 27, 34, 35, 37, 38, 47, 55, 59
Tide: 22, (38)
Nin: 25, 29, 58

Total : 15 work cited + 3 Experts + 1 survey = 19 work cited

Attention
1 Send your part to Suras by 9.00am tomorrow, no later than that!
2 Bring the notecards you guys used in the paper tomorrow too!

Thank you all for doing your part so well :)

Ps. Group paper will be done by 14:00 tomorrow, hence, everything will
be over in about 15 hours, so fight guys!!!!!