Analyzing RWGPS

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Dave

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May 11, 2026, 10:09:13 AM (11 days ago) May 11
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For a given brevet, lets pretend I have 2 hrs of total stop time.   How do I break this out so I can see that I had a 15 min stop here, and 40 min stop there?  I have a ride with gps Premium acct if that matters.  Or perhaps another tool will do the trick.

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Dave 13555

Mike Sturgill

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May 11, 2026, 10:14:18 AM (11 days ago) May 11
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Try www.randoplan.com

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Mark Thomas

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May 11, 2026, 10:18:19 AM (11 days ago) May 11
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I did this last week by uploading my gps track from Chiba 1300 into Claude AI and asking it to identify stops longer than 7 minutes. I also asked it to plot on a map - https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=10Muf6DoJ3KNAtvZzYsOQb4ZrNtve3yI&usp=sharing

Originally I was just trying to identify length of sleep stops, but ended up asking for more.

Mark

32 stops over 7 minutes across the whole ride:

#Stopped (JST)DurationElapsed
1May 2, 09:2930m3h 19m
2May 2, 12:2623m6h 17m
3May 2, 15:0720m8h 58m
4May 2, 15:2923m9h 19m
5May 2, 18:2627m12h 16m
6May 2, 22:265h 40m16h 17m
7May 3, 04:4627m22h 37m
8May 3, 08:1426m26h 5m
9May 3, 11:2632m29h 16m
10May 3, 16:4837m34h 38m
11May 3, 20:298m38h 20m
12May 3, 21:0919m39h 0m
13May 3, 22:339m40h 23m
14May 4, 00:017h 7m41h 51m
15May 4, 09:4427m51h 35m
16May 4, 12:2925m54h 20m
17May 4, 14:3737m56h 28m
18May 4, 17:4532m59h 36m
19May 4, 20:548m62h 44m
20May 4, 21:117h 48m63h 2m
21May 5, 06:5329m72h 44m
22May 5, 09:3235m75h 23m
23May 5, 12:3035m78h 21m
24May 5, 15:0832m80h 59m
25May 5, 17:3626m83h 27m
26May 5, 20:1225m86h 2m
27May 5, 22:498m88h 40m
28May 5, 23:035h 1m88h 54m
29May 6, 05:0720m94h 57m
30May 6, 07:2526m97h 15m
31May 6, 10:3726m100h 27m
32May 6, 12:4127m102h 31m


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Jack Nicholson

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May 11, 2026, 10:26:45 AM (11 days ago) May 11
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If looking at your ride on a desktop computer (Mac for me) it's easy:

-On the elevation-distance graph, deselect “Ele” and select “Speed" 

-Under the graph select “Switch to time”

Your stops are the zero-speed intervals, which you can measure with the cursor.

Haven’t figured out how to do this on my iPad yet.

Jack



Boyle Household

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May 11, 2026, 11:13:51 AM (11 days ago) May 11
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Keith G

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May 11, 2026, 11:33:19 AM (11 days ago) May 11
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Appreciated the hint to use RandoPlan, I never realized it did this as I'd only used it to plan rides, not to look back at activities: connect to Strava and it will give you down a dropdown to select your activity.  You can see down to 30-minute interval granularity with stopped time measured out.  Really handy and easy.  

If I need more details, I've used VeloViewer ... originally stood up for collecting "tiles" (plots out if your GPS track entered areas you had/had-not ridden before, like Squadrats, Wandrer, similar) ... but you can also analyze Strava activity files with second-to-second granularity: under activities, there is a "data" tab that gives you all sorts of metrics.  Scrolling down to "Time", you can see your full ride ET mapped out, with stopped time as little 'bumps' in the data when you weren't moving.  Floating over each and/or selecting segments to zoom in, you can grab the actual elapsed time mark when you stopped - so, you see not just how long you were stopped, but WHEN you arrived and left a control / nature stop / shade stop / ditch nap.  Also helpful if you need to validate EPP against actual control open/close recommendations, or match up receipts:  yeah, receipts aren't always required anymore, but when they were I'd sometimes hit a store that hadn't adjusted their point of sale system to daylight savings time (or it was just "off"), so I'd get a receipt with a timestamp adrift from reality, and I was able to prove that I actually DID make the control before the cut-off.  Rare to need it for such things anymore, but sometimes dense data is good.

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Vlad Georgevich

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May 11, 2026, 2:11:52 PM (11 days ago) May 11
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Given the discussion on analyzing rides, I thought I’d ask a similar question.
I am planning a major cycling trip from Norway to Spain and I have a route identified but I need to plan the rest of it. Planning is tedious. I was curious if anyone had tried to use any AI tools to help with planning.
It would be nice for a tool to break the trip into similar-effort daily segments, and then identify hotels, camp grounds, restaurants, grocery stores along the way, (with their addresses) I tried ChatGPT.
Generic advise was reasonable, but specifics were nonsensical. When I uploaded my route it failed miserably. It started giving me hotels in upstate New York. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Vlad

Ramsey Hanna

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May 11, 2026, 2:19:34 PM (11 days ago) May 11
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Use RWGPS, paved/unpaved layers, the heat map, Google street view, and Google Maps layers to identify resupply, and I’ve been able to build high quality routes pretty much anywhere I have been (that includes Norway, Armenia, and Iceland). The new photo features and the Google satellite feature can be useful too. I can probably construct a pretty decent 5 day route in a few hours. Cross check with air bnb and Google Maps for hotels.
 
AI tools are don’t do particularly well because they’re trained on whatever trails people are talking about on Reddit combined with sparse Mapping data, so you’ll never get any good information from them and I (personally) think you’d miss the best roads and stops (country lanes etc),
Ramsey

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Vlad Georgevich

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May 11, 2026, 3:18:52 PM (11 days ago) May 11
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Ramey
Thank you for your recommendations. 
I already have a  route planned, and I already use RWGPS as you suggested. Information that RWGPS provides is incomplete. 
I was hoping to find an app that will simplify the process of identifying “services” along the way.   Ride with GPS capabilities are tedious and inadequate. For food establishments or hotels to show up, one has to zoom in. Also, the listing is often incomplete. I currently have to have several hotel apps searching an area for me to find  hotel options. It takes me hours to go through few hundred km segment.  An app that would read in the GPS coordinates and pull in the hotel, camping, restaurant information would be useful, I was hoping that someone has come up with an app like that. 
Vlad

Bill Brier Jr.

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May 12, 2026, 2:20:23 AM (11 days ago) May 12
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Vlad,

Try 

ChatGPT can also be very helpful given enough information, such as referring apps like. 

Bill

Vlad Georgevich

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May 12, 2026, 2:01:43 PM (10 days ago) May 12
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Bill, 
Thank you. I will definitely try it. 
Vlad 
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Kevin J. Williams

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May 12, 2026, 3:02:41 PM (10 days ago) May 12
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Huge thanks, Bill! I have been wanting something like this for years. 


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Ramsey Hanna

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May 12, 2026, 3:20:24 PM (10 days ago) May 12
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Vlad,
I see, you pretty much want rwgps layers from every hotel/service app? The app/site bill sent is also not going to be conclusive as it’s only data from open street map (OSM street map is a layer on rwgps too!). I personally find the google map layer more than adequate, but I’ve considered a project for adding additional layers onto rwgps route planner that adds services from
Different apps,
Ramsey
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