When does the 2023 PBP season actually start?

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Jason Hartfield

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Oct 17, 2022, 4:12:57 PM10/17/22
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I heard that brevets in November/December count towards PBP qualifying next year because the 2023 season actually starts in 2022.  Is that true?  Does anyone have an official source for that?  I've been all over the PBP and RUSA websites and haven't found anything.  

I'm thinking of travelling to do a ride or two in November and December but want to make sure it's going to be "worth it".

Any help is appreciated!
~Jason

Bill Bryant

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Oct 17, 2022, 4:19:44 PM10/17/22
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In the US, our 2022 ACP brevet season ends this coming weekend, October 22nd. Any more brevets late October-December will carry the RUSA sanction and will not count toward PBP qualifying. For us, that begins on January 1st, 2023. (And this matches the practice in France, where the ACP believes in a specific season, not year-round randonneuring.)

 

However, and this where I think you were going with your question, is in the southern hemisphere, such as Australia, Brazil, and other BRM countries. They are entering their prime cycling months and their November and December ACP brevets will count for the 2023 results.

 

So, lots of travel to take advantage of those events, but still another 2.5 months of waiting here in the US for ACP brevets to resume.

 

Bonne route,

Bill Bryant

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Bill Bryant

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Oct 17, 2022, 5:53:34 PM10/17/22
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Hi Again, Jason—

Also, if you live in a colder region where things typically get started later in the year, a trip to a warmer US region could help in a PBP year. (Although it does add cost to a year with an expensive trip to France August, so that is a consideration.)

 

Unlike foreign travel which makes shipping a bike extremely expensive, you can use BikeFlights or a similar service when you fly to domestic brevets. Traveling without the bike is often more enjoyable then with one.

 

If you go to the RUSA ride search tool at rusa.org, you can specify the month, and the type of brevet sanction for your qualifiers (be sure it has an ACP/BRM sanction, not a RUSA sanction if you want it to count for PBP qualifying. About 95% of US brevets carry the ACP sanction January through mid-October, but as we’ve seen, not in November/December.)

 

https://rusa.org/cgi-bin/eventsearch_GF.pl

 

Quite a few randonneurs from northern states will travel to FL, AL, GA, TX, AZ, and southern CA in January and/or February to earn their 200k and 300k PBP qualifiers, and be ready for the longer ones when spring rolls around. I’ve known riders who ship their bike to, say, FL, and do a January 200k, return home, then return again in February for a 300k, all the while their bike is being stored for a few weeks by a local shop or rider so only one $$ trip to and from home is needed for the bike. (Obviously one needs more than one bike in this case.) At any rate, it is nice to have some flex in your qualifying instead of cramming it all in April to June. And, perhaps a week or two of training camp or touring in a warmer southern region will help you when the local brevets begin.

 

Bonne route!

 

Bill Bryant

 

 

 

From: <randonn...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Jason Hartfield <jasonha...@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, October 17, 2022 at 12:59 PM
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Subject: [RUSA] When does the 2023 PBP season actually start?

 

I heard that brevets in November/December count towards PBP qualifying next year because the 2023 season actually starts in 2022.  Is that true?  Does anyone have an official source for that?  I've been all over the PBP and RUSA websites and haven't found anything.  

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Jason Hartfield

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Oct 17, 2022, 10:44:54 PM10/17/22
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Thank you for clearing that up for me Bill! 

Another Brian

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Oct 21, 2022, 12:46:39 AM10/21/22
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Hi Bill.

Is the 22nd really the end?  I thought I'd read elsewhere that it was the month of October.   I see in the RUSA database that Lone Star Randonneurs has an ACP designated 1000K starting on 10/29.

-Brian

Bill Bryant

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Oct 21, 2022, 9:53:42 AM10/21/22
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Hi Brian,

The normal ACP season ends on October 15th. I was told it got an extra week for this weekend, the 22nd. Apparently now that has been extended to 29th.

Unusual for sure, but if one needs a 2022 brevet, there are still a few long brevets possible.

 

Bill Bryant

Bill Bryant

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Oct 21, 2022, 9:57:39 AM10/21/22
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Oh, I should add that the normal ACP season ~~ in the US~~ ends on October 15th. The RUSA Board set that limit years ago in order to give our hard-working brevet coordinator a little time to prepare the last batch of US results to go to Paris, and there has been a history of a few US RBAs being slow in submitting  their final results. So, the 15th was selected. Technically, the ACP would accept them until the end of the month. All of us RBAs who are running brevets on October 22nd and 29th have been admonished to get them in asap.

 

Bill Bryant

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