RE: [RUSA] Digest for randonneurs-usa@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 2 topics
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Sep 30, 2023, 11:40:54 PM9/30/23
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Good evening.
I was one of the first that pointed out the incongruity of the video after showing it to my non rando friends (who are avid long time cyclists). As I pointed out to Joshua Haley, if you are trying to attract new members to our type of riding, you need to be cognizant of ALL inconsistencies. If you simply dismiss this as 'absurd' then you are not relating it to someone who is new to our sport.
We need to be consistent in everything 'rando'... with safely riding on roadways being at the top of the list. We all have friends who have been tragically been involved in traffic accidents. To simply dismiss safety is an injustice to all who have been before us. I for one always ride with a head / tailight even though it isn't required. I appreciate the art of creating the videos in question BUT not at the risk of misinterpretation.
Brian Burke OD
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Date: 9/30/23 10:50 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [RUSA] Digest for randonn...@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 2 topics
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Ben Everett <bever...@gmail.com>: Sep 30 07:41AM -0700
Greg and Larry, with all due respect, the notion that someone would see these videos and assume that randonnuering involves riding on the incorrect side of the road is pretty absurd. I also find it to be pretty immature to go online and publicly disparage the team involved making the series. If you don't like them, don't watch them. Best, Ben On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 3:23:05 PM UTC-7 Sean Keesler wrote: |
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Emory Hancock <emoryha...@gmail.com>: Sep 30 09:34AM -0700
Greg and Larry, The video was great. Your vibe sucks. Rules lawyer belt and suspenders attitudes like this is part of why doing official RUSA events is a non-starter for so many riders. Have fun litigating the joy out of bikes. Best, Emory (they/them) On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:54:29 AM UTC-4 Ben Everett wrote: |
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ken jessett <kenje...@gmail.com>: Sep 30 01:00PM -0500
I would hope members can voice their opinions without being subjected to insulting and negative attacks by other members on this forum. Disappointing to say the least. On Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 12:39 PM Emory Hancock <emoryha...@gmail.com> wrote: |
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Nick Dawe <ndd...@gmail.com>: Sep 30 01:37PM -0500
I think the videos are great and it is a wonderful way to explain our style of riding to others - attract a few more converts maybe. We are a niche in cycling and always will be, but our style suits a growing 30-60+ demographic that want to stay active into our 70's and then some. We experience a teamwork spirit helping each other to finish as we fight against the heat ( TX ), rain, wind, mechanicals and other hurdles that make each ride into a story. Our RBA's, our leadership have been sued by riders and/or their representatives. Rules are few and far between, waivers necessary. Keep it up. Document our sport. We are audacious, Nick Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2023, at 1:00 PM, ken jessett <kenje...@gmail.com> wrote: I would hope members can voice their opinions without being subjected to insulting and negative attacks by other members on this forum. Disappointing to say the least. On Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 12:39 PM Emory Hancock <emoryha...@gmail.com> wrote: Greg and Larry, The video was great. Your vibe sucks. Rules lawyer belt and suspenders attitudes like this is part of why doing official RUSA events is a non-starter for so many riders. Have fun litigating the joy out of bikes. Best, Emory (they/them) On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:54:29 AM UTC-4 Ben Everett wrote: Greg and Larry, with all due respect, the notion that someone would see these videos and assume that randonnuering involves riding on the incorrect side of the road is pretty absurd. I also find it to be pretty immature to go online and publicly disparage the team involved making the series. If you don't like them, don't watch them. Best, Ben On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 3:23:05 PM UTC-7 Sean Keesler wrote: I'm considering these videos as very good marketing material to help grow this community and to get the word out. I certainly haven't been able to do it, so good for RUSA for putting some creative talent behind it. I didn't consider them as tutorials on "how to ride a bike on the street" or "how to build your bike frames". ;) I'd show them to my kids and not worry about them getting the wrong idea. The reverse angle is more an easter egg than anything else. Once it was pointed out I thought it was funny. I hadn't noticed at all. On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 5:12 PM Bill Scanga <billsc...@gmail.com> wrote: I liked that it looked very much like a rando ride. Kim mentions style above. I think these videos help define our style (hi-vis outfits etc.) as opposed to the lycra-clad roadies that most people think cyclists are supposed to look like. Non-rando people often ask us why would we want to ride these long distances. The videos answer some of those questions pretty clearly. Certainly more clearly than I've been able to. I had to watch the video a few times and read the caption on IG to figure out what the issue being discussed even was. I didn't notice the mirroring I certainly didn't get any sense from the video that anything dangerous was going on. I suspect the casual viewer and the rando-curious would not get the sense that we are a lawless bunch from watching these videos. (They may have a preconceived notion that we are a lawless bunch, but the video does not reinforce that) I'm a relatively new Randonneur, just 2 years now. The reckless behavior I've seen has been from angry motorists. With our PA rando group, the bike checks are taken seriously, reflective gear is double checked and riders are looked out for. Routes are planned with safety at the forefront and we are warned about areas that may lack a shoulder or have heavy traffic. We push ourselves to our limits and we make sure we are safe enough to do that. We certainly don't gather around with our RBA and discuss our lawless road exploits and sleep deprivation and I suspect that very few Randonneurs are doing that. bill15090 On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 3:33 PM Kim Freitas <kim.f...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Randonneuring Friends, I really liked this video. For me, it conveyed the deep connection to nature, the discovery of local but sometimes unknown landscapes, the self-reliance and good friendships that develop, and the inner peace and satisfaction that comes with randonneuring. I thought the images, music, and voice really worked together to create an authentic vibe. I loved that it featured a woman who is a good cyclist with a solid randonneur-style bike, gear and kit. I appreciate that RUSA is using social media thoughtfully to make randonneuring more accessible. I respect that the comments center around safety and risks, which are such important aspects of our sport. Enjoy Fall riding. Be well! Kim Freitas RUSA#428 On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 5:58 AM Dawn Piech <dmpi...@gmail.com> wrote: Why Randonneuring? If you follow our Randonneurs USA Instagram, Facebook page and/or YouTube, you may know that we collaborated with Mercator Films Production to put together 5 short reels (short segments of a larger video) and 1 longer video to showcase what randonneuring is all about. We would like to take this opportunity to share them here. We hope you would consider following our new YouTube channel and sharing this video with your respective cycling regions/communities and those outside of randonneuring to showcase what we are all about. We will be sharing these every Tuesday over the next 5 weeks. This first short reel #1 is titled Why Randonneuring? | Accessible Nature | https://youtube.com/shorts/gjBCyuWsNWE?si=a57YltgJ6mmyhFUT Getting on your bike and unplugging from your routine is a way that you can experience the places around you in a new light. All of our permanents and brevets have gone through a long review process to make sure they are the best places to ride your bike. Riding your bike may bring awareness to areas that you may have not thought of before; nature that is in between the parks. Riding your bike long distances helps you to be able to see a vast amount of area in a way that you cannot do otherwise. So, how does this Accessible Nature short reel resonate with you? SUBSCRIBE to our NEW Randonneurs USA YouTube HERE: https://www.youtube.com/@RandonneursUSA NOTE: There are some sections that contain mirrored images which make the crank appear on the wrong side of the bike and the cyclist appear on the wrong side of the road. We are aware of this. We hope you can appreciate the artistic liberty that the filmmaker used to bring us the story and feeling throughout each of these. Art is subjective. Thank you for being a member of Randonneurs USA. 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"Chris Beauchamp" <cbeau...@mindspring.com>: Sep 29 08:15PM -0700
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