Ride With GPS Import

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Richard Stum | eoGEAR

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Jun 11, 2014, 12:55:43 AM6/11/14
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I have a route which I created in Bike Route Toaster.
I want to import it into RWGPS and keep it as a route. I can only import this GPX file as a "ride," and not as a "route" with my freebie RWGPS account. Am I missing a feature?
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Brian Ogilvie

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Jun 11, 2014, 9:55:40 AM6/11/14
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I have a paid RideWithGPS account, so I'm not sure whether there's a difference...I just imported a route created in Strava into RWGPS, from the "Upload" page, and it was imported as a route.

Does Bike Route Toaster add time stamps to the GPX track points? That might cause RWGPS to interpret the route as a ride.

You can convert a ride into a route, at least in the paid version, by going to the ride full view, and in the right-hand pane, click "Copy to my routes." The result is a route. You could then delete the ride if you wish.

Apologies if this doesn't work in the free version. I find RWGPS useful enough that I want to support the developers.

Brian

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Richard Stum | eoGEAR <ric...@eogear.com> wrote:
I have a route which I created in Bike Route Toaster.
I want to import it into RWGPS and keep it as a route. I can only import this GPX file as a "ride," and not as a "route" with my freebie RWGPS account. Am I missing a feature?

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Bill Gobie

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Jun 11, 2014, 11:09:22 AM6/11/14
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After converting the ride to a route with "Copy to my routes," can you edit the route? In free RWGPS the "route" disappears and you get a new route drawn from the start to wherever you've clicked on the map. The "route" seems to be more like a track. 

If you try this process with an actual ride track, you can see the track often does not coincide with the roads on the map due to gps error. So RWGPS cannot figure out what roads you were on, and cannot create a route. 

Bill


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Eric Keller

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Jun 11, 2014, 11:18:05 AM6/11/14
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Bill Gobie <gobie...@gmail.com> wrote:
After converting the ride to a route with "Copy to my routes," can you edit the route? In free RWGPS the "route" disappears and you get a new route drawn from the start to wherever you've clicked on the map. The "route" seems to be more like a track. 

If you try this process with an actual ride track, you can see the track often does not coincide with the roads on the map due to gps error. So RWGPS cannot figure out what roads you were on, and cannot create a route. 

Bill


Procedure:
Upload to a ride, or "activity" as they alternately call it.  When done, go to the rides page, select "view" for the ride in question.  There is an option to "copy to my routes."  When copied, there is one control point at the beginning and end.  Adding control points makes it easier (possible, IDK) to edit. Once you have added control points, it edits like a normal route.

Richard Stum | eoGEAR

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Jun 11, 2014, 7:58:37 PM6/11/14
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Perfect Eric. That worked. This route had some bike trails that I have to hand draw, so I would rather just copy an existing route, rather than retrace.
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Martin Shipp

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Jun 11, 2014, 8:46:34 PM6/11/14
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I've found that RWGPS will go on most bike trails, sometimes when I do NOT want them to.  
I have found that when I've wanted to include a bike trail, I often need to zoom in quite close.  
(Using free RWGPS.) 
 
...Martin 


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Chicken Sandwich

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Jun 12, 2014, 11:50:48 AM6/12/14
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Thank you for this - I have a brand new paved trail near my house that is much nicer for getting out of town than dealing with a particular 4 lane road for half a mile.  I would like to edit my permanents to use it.  I have not been sure how to hand draw the routes in since they are not yet on Google Maps.  I'll just track a ride with RWGPS and then add it to 'my routes' and edit.

Roland Bevan

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Jun 12, 2014, 12:26:36 PM6/12/14
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Just a note - on RideWithGPS you can switch to other map overlays besides Google Maps. I've found that the OSM maps often allow me to map on fire roads and trails that aren't on Google Maps. You might give that a try.
  -Roland

Brian Ogilvie

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Jun 12, 2014, 12:29:03 PM6/12/14
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That's a good point. And if a new path/road is not yet on OSM, you can use your GPX track to add it to the OSM database. I've contributed a couple roads in my area and several rural roads in parts of France that had not yet made it to OSM.

Brian

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Roland Bevan <r...@alouysius.net> wrote:
Just a note - on RideWithGPS you can switch to other map overlays besides Google Maps. I've found that the OSM maps often allow me to map on fire roads and trails that aren't on Google Maps. You might give that a try.
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Chicken Sandwich

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Jun 12, 2014, 12:59:22 PM6/12/14
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I understand the concept of a different overlay in RWGPS, but I am using a smartphone, not a Garmin or other GPS, to create tracks.  I can use the RWGPS app to track a ride that I could then edit and use in RWGPS, obviously, and choose to use the OSM overlay.

But...

What app can I use that would allow me to do a direct import into OSM on Android that would not require me to transfer a GPX file to a computer first?  Or can that be done directly from the RWGPS app?  Or can I use a different app that leverages OSM in the first place and can update OSM on the fly?


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Bill Gobie

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Jun 12, 2014, 1:47:26 PM6/12/14
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Ok, I see. You have to pin down the route first with control points before editing it. Otherwise RWGPS re-routes along the shortest distance.

Bill

Bill Gobie

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Jun 12, 2014, 1:51:11 PM6/12/14
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You can switch RWGPS to "draw lines" and it will just connect control points with straight lines until you switch it back to "follow roads." I do this in satellite view to follow trails that aren't mapped yet.

Bill


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