Edelux quit working
Nevin, Willy
Last week on the SF 600k one of my Schmidt Edelux LED lights quit on me. My group got wet during the 28 miles back from Ft Brag to the campground then again a bit on the way toward Boonville, but nothing nasty. The light started to flicker a bit so I switched to my other Edelux for the remainder of the night.
Looking at it yesterday it looks like it has moisture inside and the on / off switch seems very gritty’ish.
Does anyone know if there is a way to repair one of these lights or @ $200 each are they disposable?
I have had both of these lights about 2 years and I am sure I have been caught in the rain here and there. This one was the light I used 90% of the time so it has many more hours than my back-up but no where near what these lights should last.
Thanks, willy
PatCH
getting into the casing, and Schmidt has been repairing them. Since
then, they've apparently updated the model to solve the moisture
problem. I suggest contacting Schmidt and tell them about it; mine has
been great so far with no problems.
Ken Shoemaker
not during the ride). This after 2 years of happy service. Talked with
Peter White, he said it is a known problem, and said to mail it back to
him. Hopefully, I'll get one that can survive a drenching.
Ken
Kole Kantner
hole and the cord entry point both leak air and water. I have heard
that moisture venting through a down facing area like around the power
cord may be by design, however the light sensor is not in a proper
location for venting. My Edelux was purchased new from Germany about 9
months ago. I also have a red Edelux I purchased from Peter White 3
years ago. It has a well sealed light sensor hole and has never leaked
over thousands of hours of riding including multiple periods of extended
very heavy rain.
I will seal up the light sensor hole on my silver Edelux with clear
epoxy and see how it works. I may also put a little silicone dielectric
compound around the power cable entry location to see if that helps,
although if the seal isn't perfect it may draw moisture in as the light
heats and cools.
The new IQCyo I just got is pretty much wide open on the bottom,
although it does have a nice rubber gasket on the top. I know several
people that use that light in heavy rain and have not heard of any
problems. It clearly cannot handle upside down mounting as it would
immediately fill with water.
Kole
William D. Volk
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earlier night 200 that was cold but not so wet, and it worked ok.
I sent it back to Peter after the 600 and his turnaround time and care
(wired through the front rack) was most excellent. Will be testing the new
(rebuilt?) one on a 400 tomorrow. Peter was great.
And thanks to all who have recommended redundancy. Without my backup battery
light, I'd have been a goner.
Check out my Blog: The Curious Randonneur.
www.curiousrandonneur.blogspot.com
It's about long distance bicycling and whatever else I veer off into.
Ken
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roadijeff
any moisture problems with it. I didn't even know there was a
possible problem with them until I read this thread. I've ridden in
enough rainy weather that if it leaked I believe it would have shown
up by now. I'll keep a closer eye on it just in case.
On May 20, 12:09 pm, PatCH <patch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've read that the earlier Edelux lights had problems with moisture
> getting into the casing, and Schmidt has been repairing them. Since
> then, they've apparently updated the model to solve the moisture
Dan Driscoll
was good that we all carried back up lighting and that our Sag/Mechanics
extraordinaire Pat & Charlie Jenkins where well prepared with extra lights.
Many of us had purchased our Edelux from Charlie who discounts gen wheels
and lights to Randonneurs, it was nice to have him along, to collect the
defective ones and offer to warranty them.
A Thunder storm producing enough rain to completely flood the roads, in the
middle of the night on a steep decent is nowhere good to find out that our
lights had a history of problems in the rain. Flickering from bright to dim,
Oh my, Houston we have a problem!! May be better to address it before you
get to France, although I've been told it does not rain there.
If you are thinking about purchasing a gen hub/wheel and light, you may want
send Charlie an email, he has done all of us at LSR right copied above or at
sk8er...@gmail.com
DanD
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safe riding,
Vik Banerjee
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www.thelazyrando.com
Alan Johnson
after a thunderstorm and I had to rely on a, dim by current standards,
battery back up light. I had the light for two years and had ridden in heavy
rain several times before with no problems. Harris Cyclery replaced it under
warranty at no charge.
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Ian Boehm
On 23/05/2011 5:41 AM, Vik Banerjee wrote:
> Wow - all these Edelux failure stories is making me less confident of my dynolight setup. Is this just life with an Edelux is there any preventative measures we can take to avoid problems?
G'day Vik
Earlier versions of the Edelux were a bit leaky as was mine. Its month
old warranty replacement hasn't endured a rainstorm yet.
Those keen on dynamo powered lights could consider Busch und Muller's
Lumotec IQ Cyo senso plus. It has the same optics as the Edelux i.e..
that flat top beam, nearly the same light output (60 lumen vs 80) and
has a tasty LED array underneath that provides a stand light and "near
field illumination". The senso function automatically fires up maximum
light output when things get gloomy but provides some forward light to
alert other road users to your presence on a bright day. Used one on a
400 recently but forgot to ask other riders about the effectiveness of
the latter function.
The B&M offering is much cheaper than the Edelux.
Sound randonneuring practice says have a Plan B with lights. Mine is a
B&M Ixon IQ set up for charging of its NiMH cells by the SON. If the SON
fails then Plan C is to use AA alkalines
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William D. Volk
I use the 'senso' mode so I can have daylight running lights.
William D. Volk
Thomas Durkin
Tom
Ian Boehm
On 23/05/2011 3:39 PM, Thomas Durkin wrote:
> The replacement Edilux is over a year old with 200,
> 300, 400, and 600 brevets in driving rain.
You don't have to be dead to be stiff Tom! All 4 qualifiers in rubbish
weather, my condolences.
Very encouraging to hear that the replacement Edelux survived the deluges.
Matthew Haigh
> I ran that very same light (Lumotec IQ Cyo senso plus) in a windy rainstorm last week without issues. Not a very long ride, but a wet one.
>
> I use the 'senso' mode so I can have daylight running lights.
There are two distinct ranges of the IQ Cyo lights; the "original" model
and the "T" model. The "T" has a set of separate low powered LEDs
underneath the main lens, for daytime running lights and nearfield. The
older model doesn't. If that feature is important to you, make sure you
get the right one.
With DRL/no DRL/, senso/manual versions, German standard reflector/no
reflector, hub/bottle dynamo versions, and silver/black there are
currently 10 variants in the range!
I've not had any problems in the wet with them either (fitted to two
bikes and ridden in English/Welsh weather!), but I still carry backup
lighting.
Matt
rswa...@me.com
How is your light mounted?
Mine's mounted off the right front cantilever post. It's protected from above by a Berthoud handlebar bag. It sits off to the side, so doesn't receive spray off the tire. It might get a small amount of spray off the side of the tire, but It seems unlikely that it would ever be enough to soak through to the light's innards.
I've ridden through many torrential downpours with no issues, but none of the storms have lasted more than an hour or two.
Ryan
Vik Banerjee
Ben Kraft
Earlier versions of the Edelux were a bit leaky as was mine. Its month old warranty replacement hasn't endured a rainstorm yet.
Those keen on dynamo powered lights could consider Busch und Muller's Lumotec IQ Cyo senso plus.
The B&M lights aren't waterproof, but don't seem to be particularly bothered by the stuff. I've abused an IQ Fly on my commuter bike for a few years, consistently leaving it out in rain and snow, and I have a friend who has done the same with an IQ Cyo. I also have an older B&M taillight that gets damp inside, but the water just drains out.
Of course, all these lights were protected from road/tire spray.
-Ben
Thomas Durkin
The replacement Edilux is over a year old with 200,
300, 400, and 600 brevets in driving rain.
You don't have to be dead to be stiff Tom! All 4 qualifiers in rubbish weather, my condolences.
Very encouraging to hear that the replacement Edelux survived the deluges.
Ahh, Oregon Spring
BillC
have had them fail.
I got mine off of Peter White Cycles last Nov(the beginning of the
rainy seaason here in sunny Northern California!) and have used it
since commuting to and from work every day and also on several
Brevet's with no problems. Many of these rides involved rain.
My Edelux is mounted to the mounting bolt of my side pull brakes to
the fork crown. Basically center above the front wheel. My bike is
equipped with fenders and so the spray from the rain is kept away from
the Edelux. My guess is that if you don't have something shielding the
underside of the Edelux from the spray coming off of the wheel (like
fenders), then you may very well be having problems. It would be like
holding a constant jet spray of water up to the vent hole on the
underside of the light. Eventually some water will get inside in this
situation.
Regards,
Bill
On May 23, 6:53 am, Vik Banerjee <three...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ryan - that's how mine is mounted as well. I'm hoping that provides some protection. I have used it in heavy rain a few times for a several hours each time with no ill effects.
>
>
> safe riding,
>
> Vik Banerjee
> three...@gmail.comwww.thelazyrando.com
roadijeff
On May 23, 2:32 pm, BillC <wj_...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> My Edelux is mounted to the mounting bolt of my side pull brakes to
> the fork crown. Basically center above the front wheel. My bike is
> equipped with fenders and so the spray from the rain is kept away from
> the Edelux. My guess is that if you don't have something shielding the
> underside of the Edelux from the spray coming off of the wheel (like
> fenders), then you may very well be having problems.
I have my Edelux mounted in the same location. I do not ride with
fenders (never have and never will) and I have been through enough
rainy weather over the 2-3 years I've had my Edelux that if it had a
water leak I'm sure it would have shown up by now.
Ken Shoemaker
rim. I expect that it could get plenty wet there but it had survived
several storms before it finally succumbed to the elements in a storm
that really wasn't that bad. I am wondering whether it raining through
dawn caused an issue as the lamp cooled down while things were still
very wet? Maybe I'm over thinking the problem?
I am loathe to move it from the location on the fork as it makes for
excellent visibility to road hazards. Hopefully, the replacement from
Peter White will have the moisture issues resolved. My backup is a
Denotte that uses 4xAA batteries which survived PBP2007 and got me
through the SFR600k this year.
Ken
On 5/23/2011 4:20 AM, rswa...@me.com wrote:
> To those of you who've had Edelux failures in the rain:
> How is your light mounted?
> Mine's mounted off the right front cantilever post. It's protected from above by a Berthoud handlebar bag. It sits off to the side, so doesn't receive spray off the tire. It might get a small amount of spray off the side of the tire, but It seems unlikely that it would ever be enough to soak through to the light's innards.
> I've ridden through many torrential downpours with no issues, but none of the storms have lasted more than an hour or two.
>
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2011, at 13:41, Vik Banerjee<thre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow - all these Edelux failure stories is making me less confident of my dynolight setup. Is this just life with an Edelux is there any preventative measures we can take to avoid problems?
>>
>> safe riding,
>>
>> Vik Banerjee
>> thre...@gmail.com
>> www.thelazyrando.com
>>
>> On 2011-05-22, at 12:36 PM, Dan Driscoll wrote:
>>
>>> We had 3 different Edelux's fail on The Texas Rando Stampede 1,200 Km. It
>>> was good that we all carried back up lighting and that our Sag/Mechanics
>>> extraordinaire Pat& Charlie Jenkins where well prepared with extra lights.
Souplesse
since riding in torrential rain during a late-April fleche. There's
mositure on the inside, and the light quit working entirely during
long stretches of recent 400 Km and 600 Km brevets. I just sent it
back for repair; we'll see if there's any improvement. But I have to
say that this is unacceptable performance for a $200 light that is
marketed to randonneurs. I never had these problems with my old E6
secondary/Lumotec primary set-up, even in the near-constant rain of
PBP 2007.
My Edelux is mounted on the left side of my front decaleur rack, above
the fendered front wheel and beneath a Berthoud bag.
Souplesse
new one. Here's hoping for better luck with the replacement . . . .
dirtyc...@comcast.net
| Please keep us posted. Peter did the same for me, and remarkably quickly! But my replacement met same fate on subsequent rainy 400k. Stopped working. Trying to diagnose as either short to taillight when wet (i'm doubting) or spray from placement of headlight next to where tire and fender meet (more likely i'm thinking). Peace Steve |
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From: Souplesse <joseph....@gte.net>
To: randon <ran...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 18:51:03 GMT+00:00
Subject: [Randon] Re: Edelux quit working
As a follow up, Peter White promptly replaced my soggy Edelux with a
new one. Here's hoping for better luck with the replacement . . . .