Re: Rain pants - Shoes?

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Apr 4, 2004, 8:32:00 AM4/4/04
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How about footwear for rain or very cold weather?

I bought SPD sandals to use with GoreTex socks in the rain but have not
tested this much, the last time out my feet got soaked but I believe
this was because my these socks (SealSkinz) are pretty old and I guess
leaky. I originally bought them for use apres-hiking on backpacking trips.

There are a number of winter boot products, some perhaps waterproof, and
I thought this might be a good time of year to pick up a pair on sale.
Are there any recommendations for this type of footwear?

--Eric Peterson

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>I am a fan of the "Craft" line of products My latest purchase from them
>is their cold weather pants. I rode every day this week in New England
>in them while in the midst of 35 degree torrential rains and was as
>comfortable as could be expected. The only time I ever got really soaked
>through was while negotiating a flooded street. I was right up to my
>hubs in water and obviously got pretty soaked through on my lower half.
>They dry very quickly. They are pretty loose fitting and zip down nicely
>over the booties.
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Peter Cole

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Apr 4, 2004, 10:32:00 AM4/4/04
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From: "Eric Peterson" <erp...@sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Rain pants - Shoes?

> How about footwear for rain or very cold weather?

I find the hardest thing to dress for is rain/wet roads in temps below 40
F. For pants, I buy cheap, coated fabric rain pants and wear them as
knickers (easy, since I'm 6'10"). For warmer weather, I cut them shorter
to make "rain shorts" (credit to S. Fong for idea).

Recently I discovered a couple of things in an on-line industrial supply
catalog (McMaster-Carr): neoprene gloves (full neoprene, like diver's
gloves), and latex shoe covers. The shoe covers are only $4 or so and are
very thin (about the thickness of kitchen gloves), and very stretchy. I
cut a hole for cleat and wrap the top around my leg under my tights, very
waterproof.

Like everybody else, I find jackets to be a compromise. For cold-wet, I
bite the bullet and wear one of non-breathing treated Ultrex. It keeps
soaking water off my body but condenses a lot of sweat despite lots of
venting. For warm-wet, I have a breathable (Activent) vest, just keeps
flowing water off my torso.

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Mike Robinson

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Apr 4, 2004, 12:49:00 PM4/4/04
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What about the SPD sandals but with full neoprene socks from a
diver's supply. After all their purpose is to keep you warm under
water.

Mike Robinson


Eric Peterson wrote:
>How about footwear for rain or very cold weather?
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Rod Dalitz

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Apr 4, 2004, 3:11:00 PM4/4/04
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On 4 Apr 2004, at 17:48, Mike Robinson wrote:

> What about the SPD sandals but with full neoprene socks from a
> diver's supply. After all their purpose is to keep you warm under
> water.

> Eric Peterson wrote:
>> I bought SPD sandals to use with GoreTex socks in the rain but have
>> not tested this much, the last time out my feet got soaked but I
>> believe this was because my these socks (SealSkinz) are pretty old
>> and I guess leaky. I originally bought them for use apres-hiking on
>> backpacking trips.

This question cannot be answered without knowing the temperature and
exertion of the day.

Neoprene is waterproof and leads to two problems. First, if you are
working hard and sweat, your feet will be sitting in pools of salty
sweat, which I can assure you from personal experience may lead to an
allergic reaction. Also, if the rain is able to run down your leg, some
of it will end up in your neoprene sock. If it is cold and you wear
good waterproof trousers, they should be OK, but be sure to wear a pair
or two of socks inside the neoprene.

Goretex is breathable, and allows the water vapor to escape, provided
your feet are warmer than the outside world. If the temperature is well
below freezing, as in mountaineering situations, the water vapor will
collect and freeze into ice at the layer of insulation which is cold
enough for that.

Of course, one really helpful tactic is to make sure you never sweat
much, by avoiding overdressing. This is easier said than done, when
your ride mixes climbs and descents, and is harder the colder it gets.
If the rain is warm, it is easier to accept that your feet get wet, and
just make sure you wear woollen socks, which retain warmth even when
wet.

regards, Rod

rod.d...@blueyonder.co.uk

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