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पिछले दिनों बेंगलुरु में आयोजित एक कार्यशाला में विभिन्न क्षेत्रीय संगठनों के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा हिंदी भाषा को लेकर कुछ अनावश्यक बयानबाजी की गई। अपनी संकुचित मानसिकता का परिचय देने वाले लोगों का मानना है कि हिंदी के विकास और विस्तार से क्षेत्रीय भाषाओं का अस्तित्व मिट जाएगा। मैं बड़े आदर से उन क्षत्रपों से यह जानना चाहता हूँ कि :

——    संविधान की अवधारणाओं का मूल उद्देश्य क्या एक मजबूत “राष्ट्र का निर्माण” करना नहीं है ?

——    मजबूत राष्ट्र का निर्माण क्या बिना “चहुँमुखी विकास” के संभव है ?

——    चहुँमुखी विकास का तात्पर्य क्या मात्र “भोग्य वस्तुओं की भरपूर मात्रा में उपलब्धता” है ?

——    राष्ट्र का चहुँमुखी विकास क्या बिना “राष्ट्रभाषा” के संभव है ?

——    राष्ट्र के लिए राष्ट्रभाषा की “संकल्पना” क्या अपराध है ?

——    क्षेत्रीय अवधारणाओं को क्या “राष्ट्रीय पहचान” से ऊपर रखा जाना चाहिए ?

मेरा मानना है कि हिंदी क्षेत्रीय एवं अन्य आधुनिक भाषाओं को पर्याप्त महत्व देकर ही आज विश्व के कोने-कोने तक पहुँची है। वर्तमान जेट युग में वह संपर्क की, बाजार की, रोजगार की, कामकाज की भाषा के रूप में खुद को स्थापित कर लिया है। हिंदी के इस आधुनिक स्वरूप से किसी को भी भयभीत होने की आवश्यकता नहीं है।

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India has more English speakers than Great Britain and most of them are polyglots and yet India is unable to provide equal education regardless the medium of instruction through transcription,transliteration and translation. Most world languages have modified their alphabets and use most modern alphabet in writings. Vedic Sanskrit alphabet have been modified to Devanagari and to simplest Gujanagari(Gujarati) script and yet Hindi is taught in a very printing ink wasting complex,non cursive script to millions of children in India. Why not adopt a simple script at national level? 
Indian states can retain their languages,scripts and culture by teaching highly propagated Hindi/Sanskrit in regional scripts to impart technical education through a script converter or in India s simplest Gujanagari script along with a Roman script to revive Brahmi script. 
Maharashtra has lost Modi script in 1950 in order to teach three languages in one script. Bihar also has lost Bhojapuri(Kaithi) script in 1894. 
Westerners were able to simplify Brahmi script to their proper use but Sanskrit pundits ended up creating complex script by adding lines and matras on letters.These pundits also have divided India further by creating various complex scripts for regional languages/dialects under different rulers. 
ancientscripts.com - Ancient Scripts: Brahmi 
Nagari Lipi Parishad prefers Nagari script for all Indian languages despite it's simplification to cursive Gujanagari for faster writings.


Above in India's simplest Gujanaagari script:

પિછલે દિનોં બેંગલુરુ મેં આયોજિત એક કાર્યશાલા મેં વિભિન્ન ક્ષેત્રીય સંગઠનોં કે પ્રતિનિધિયોં દ્વારા હિંદી ભાષા કો લેકર કુછ અનાવશ્યક બયાનબાજી કી ગઈ|  અપની સંકુચિત માનસિકતા કા પરિચય દેને વાલે લોગોં કા માનના હૈ કિ હિંદી કે વિકાસ ઔર વિસ્તાર સે ક્ષેત્રીય ભાષાઓં કા અસ્તિત્વ મિટ જાએગા|  મૈં બડ઼ે આદર સે ઉન ક્ષત્રપોં સે યહ જાનના ચાહતા હૂઁ કિ :

——    સંવિધાન કી અવધારણાઓં કા મૂલ ઉદ્દેશ્ય ક્યા એક મજબૂત “રાષ્ટ્ર કા નિર્માણ” કરના નહીં હૈ ?

——    મજબૂત રાષ્ટ્ર કા નિર્માણ ક્યા બિના “ચહુઁમુખી વિકાસ” કે સંભવ હૈ ?

——    ચહુઁમુખી વિકાસ કા તાત્પર્ય ક્યા માત્ર “ભોગ્ય વસ્તુઓં કી ભરપૂર માત્રા મેં ઉપલબ્ધતા” હૈ ?

——    રાષ્ટ્ર કા ચહુઁમુખી વિકાસ ક્યા બિના “રાષ્ટ્રભાષા” કે સંભવ હૈ ?

——    રાષ્ટ્ર કે લિએ રાષ્ટ્રભાષા કી “સંકલ્પના” ક્યા અપરાધ હૈ ?

——    ક્ષેત્રીય અવધારણાઓં કો ક્યા “રાષ્ટ્રીય પહચાન” સે ઊપર રખા જાના ચાહિએ ?

મેરા માનના હૈ કિ હિંદી ક્ષેત્રીય એવં અન્ય આધુનિક ભાષાઓં કો પર્યાપ્ત મહત્વ દેકર હી આજ વિશ્વ કે કોને-કોને તક પહુઁચી હૈ|  વર્તમાન જેટ યુગ મેં વહ સંપર્ક કી, બાજાર કી, રોજગાર કી, કામકાજ કી ભાષા કે રૂપ મેં ખુદ કો સ્થાપિત કર લિયા હૈ|  હિંદી કે ઇસ આધુનિક સ્વરૂપ સે કિસી કો ભી ભયભીત હોને કી આવશ્યકતા નહીં હૈ|

In Roman script: Readable to all 

Pichhale dino̊ Bengaluru me̊ āyojit ek kāryashālā me̊ vibhinn kshetrīy sangaṭhano̊ ke pratinidhiyo̊ dvārā Hindī bhāshā ko lekar kuchh anāvashyak bayānabājī kī gaī| apanī sankuchit mānasikatā kā parichay dene vāle logo̊ kā mānanā hai ki Hindī ke vikās aur vistār se kshetrīy bhāshāo̊ kā astitv miṭ jāegā. Main bad̥e ādar se un kshatrapo̊ se yah jānanā cāhatā hūn ki :

——    sanvidhān kī avadhāraṇāo̊ kā mūl uddeshy kyā ek majabūt “rāshṭra kā nirmāṇ” karanā nahīn hai ?

——    majabūt rāshṭra kā nirmāṇ kyā binā “chahů̆mukhī vikās” ke sambhav hai ?

——    chahŭ̊mukhī vikās kā tātpary kyā mātra “bhogya vastuo̊ kī bharapūr mātrā me̊ upalabdhatā” hai ?

——    rāshṭra kā cahŭ̊mukhī vikās kyā binā “rāshṭrabhāṣā” ke sambhav hai ?

——    rāshṭra ke lie rāshṭrabhāṣā kī “samkalpanā” kyā aparādh hai ?

——    kshetrīy avadhāraṇāo̊ ko kyā “rāsshṭrīy pahachān” se ūpar rakhā jānā chāhie ?

Merā mānanā hai ki Hindī kshetrīy evam anya ādhunik bhāshāo̊ ko paryāpt mahatv dekar hī āj vishva ke kone-kone tak pahŭ̊chī hai. Vartamān jeṭ yug me̊ vah sampark kī, bājār kī, rojagār kī, kāmakāj kī bhāshā ke rūp me̊ khud ko sthāpit kar liyā hai. Hindī ke is ādhunik svarūp se kisī ko bhī bhayabhīt hone kī āvashyakatā nahīn hai. 
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Another little edit in ख.
परंपरागत एवं सरलीकृत देवनागरी.png

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You add these two letters.

एॅ/अॅ,अॉ 
bank/बॅन्क  not बैंक
अ आ अि/इ अी/ई उ/अु ऊ/अू ऋ ॠ ऌ ॡ ए/अे ऐ/अै अौ ऍ।अॅ ऑ अं अः 

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अि/इ अी/ई उ/अु ऊ/अू is better. I only showed for Sanskrit. अृ/ऋ अॄ/ॠ अॢ/ऌ अॣ/ॡ can also be made.
ऒ ॵ ॳ ॴ ॶ ॷ ऄ ॲ अं अः are also already available in Devanagari in the form of 'अ'. But what about ऍ ऎ ?

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But बॅन्क and बैंक both have different pronounciation. So they should not be changed.

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But what about ऍ ऎ ?

ऍ।अॅ....same sound?
ऎ .......may be used in other languages

You may take look at transliteration map and make some suggestions.

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But But बॅन्क and बैंक both have different pronunciation. and बैंक both have different pronunciation.........

As per English dictionary बॅन्क  is correct pronunciation.  

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You can avoid shirorekha while writing but how will you type these letters without shirorekhas?
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You can write without shiro-rekha and you can also make fonts without shiro-rekha.

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I wrote बॅन्क that includes nasalization.

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But औ ऑ both have different sounds. English words when written in Devanagari use अॅ instead ऑ due to very little difference in sound. Actually it is always written as बॅन्क but will be never written as बैन्क.
अे is small 'æ'
अै is medium 'æ'
अॅ is large 'æ'

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Now what about this "shrestha nagari" script??
परंपरागत एवं सरलीकृत देवनागरी.png

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Bro please visit this link and also suggest other people to visit and see the image:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true&hl=en#!topic/samskrita/nLWIqfegFck

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Now what about this "shrestha nagari" script??

You may post here and seek Sanskrit pundits approval.
samskrita

You need to fix Roman transliteration to please Sanskrit pundits.
अ आ अि अी  अु  अू   अृ   अॄ   अॢ   अॣ  अे   अै   अो  अौ   अॅ   अॉ   अं    अः
a ā aि aी aु aू aृ aॄ aॢ aॣ aे aै aो aौ aॅ aॉ aṁ aḥ 
a ā ai aī  au  aū   aṛ   aṝ   aḷ   aḹ  ae   ai   ao  au   aॅ   aॉ   aṃ    aḥ

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How will you write English words pronunciations for these words in Hindi?

act - add - and - ankle - back - bad - band - bank - bat - black - can - carry - fact - family - flat - hand - happen - happy   land - man - match - matter - plan - sad - stand - thank - travel - understand - value - tax - track

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You can write without shiro-rekha..........

See how these Hindi math and science professors get annoyed with shirorekhas ? See how they waste chalks?

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Brother I already told you no need of using shiro rekha while writing.

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Brother I already told you I made Traditional and Simplified Devanagari for Sanskrit only. If I had to write Hindi mai(I), nain (eyes), then I will write मैं and नैन respectively but for 'act', I will write ॲक्ट. Because when English word is written in Devanagari then instead अै, ॲ is used.

act ॲक्ट - add ॲड्‌ड - and ॲण्‌ड - ankle ॲङ्कल - back बॅक - bad बॅड - band बॅन्ड - bank बॅङ्‌क - bat बॅट - bench बॅञ्च black ब्लॅक - can कॅन - carry कॅर्री - fact फ़ॅक्ट - family फ़ॅमिली - flat फ़्लैट - hand हॅण्ड - happen हॅप्पन - happy हॅप्पी - land लॅण्ड - man मॅन - match मॅच - matter मॅट्‌टर - plan प्लॅन - sad सॅड - stand स्टॅण्ड - thank थॅङ्‌च - travel ट्रॅवेल - understand अण्डरस्टॅण्ड - value वॅल्यु - tax टॅक्स - track ट्रॅक

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I already posted there but no comments till now.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true&hl=en#!topic/samskrita/nLWIqfegFck

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ऍ /अॅ....Do these letters have same sound in Hindi ?
act / ऍक्ट /ॲक्ट 

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No, they have different sounds. Sorry I did a mistake act should be written as ऍक्ट, add should be ऍड्‌ड, and so on.....
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No, they have different sounds. 

Give some examples by writing few words.

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I don't know any example including ॲ, but given link shows both as same
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari

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Hindi news papers may be using lots of English words in writings but don't they spoil readers' English by not writing these words in correct pronunciations ? Regional Hindi writers need to promote more regional words in Hindi writings to make Hindi
indianized
the way English is globalized with foreign words.

Hindi media words shown in pink.
ब्रॉडबैंड हाइवे इंफ़ोर्मेशन
broad band highway, information
brɔd ˈbænd ˈhaɪˌweɪ ˌɪnfərˈmeɪʃən
brawd baend haaiwei infarmeishan
બ્રૉડ્ બૅન્ડ્ હાઇવેઇ ઇન્ફર્મેઇશન્
ब्रॉड् बॅन्ड् हाइवेइ इन्फर्मेइशन्

डेली daily /ˈdeɪli/ डेइली ,प्रोफेसर professor prəˈfɛs ər/प्रफेसर ,फ़ैक्ट/fact //fækt/ फॅक्ट  सी-सैट CCET सीसेट
क्वालिफ़ाई /qualify //ˈkwɒl əˌfaɪ/ क्वालफाइ

An easy way to learn Gujarati is to read Hindi news papers in Gujanagari script via online script converter. 

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