Re: [Yogafestival] 1. Here is the program for the Festival of July 31-August 8, 2012 2. Still a few discounts for childrens camp available

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Rafael Ramos-Garcia

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Jul 25, 2012, 7:10:22 AM7/25/12
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Sat Nam Carolyn,

My intuition tells that this is probably an unconscious homophobic communication and Satya Singh or whomever is responsible, forgot to include the Rainbow Sangat's proposal in the EYF's evening program scheduled. This has put me off presenting anything.

On another level, I think our 'community' is in some ways shy and this is also a wake up call for us to be more on the ball and 'come out' more prominent for next year at Chateau Anand 2013.

However, I agree with you that we should put up a notice at the camp and spread the word so we can at least meet up 2 or 3 times - depending on number of people attending. Any suggestions for the notice? Shall we include our photo? We could meet up at the tea lounge like last year. If the group is big then we move it somewhere else.

We also need to sort out our own communication website, because we hardly ever get any replies or hardly reaches anyone from the Rainbow Sangat.

Blessings

Raghurai Singh


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Subject: Re: [Yogafestival] 1. Here is the program for the Festival of July 31-August 8, 2012 2. Still a few discounts for childrens camp available
Sent: Sun, Jul 22, 2012 8:34:42 AM

Sat Nam,
I was surprised to see that it was not there. It is a strong step to take to ignore it…. unless you have heard something from him. 

I suggest making a notice and setting a time for a meeting, at least, which is open to the camp. 

Your thoughts? 

Cxx


On 21 Jul 2012, at 11:01, Rafael Ramos-Garcia wrote:

Sat Nam dear Sohan and Carolyn,

I guess you have seen the program from the EYF with no information about the Rainbow Sangat. Why do you think we were left out or happened there?

What shall we do?

RS


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Subject: [Yogafestival] 1. Here is the program for the Festival of July 31-August 8, 2012 2. Still a few discounts for childrens camp available
Sent: Fri, Jul 20, 2012 10:49:15 AM

Dear Friends of the Festival,

1.

For months we worked on presenting to you an inspiring and uplifting program.

Now it is ready and we invite you to take a look…

2.

There are still a few work exchange possibilities (full and half discounts) available in childrens camp. For more information please see the attached file.

3.

Just a reminder for those, who did not receive the previous announcements:

the festival will take place this year in Fondjouan (like the last ten years) as the new land was not completely ready. For traveling instructions see:

http://www.3ho-kundalini-yoga.eu/en/eventsactivities/european-yoga-festival/sitetravel/

 

Looking forward so see you soon, and wishing you a safe journey,

Satya Singh,

European 3HO

 
 
 
 

Patricia Bell

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Jul 26, 2012, 3:55:35 AM7/26/12
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Sat Nam!
I am sorry to hear that the Rainbow Sangat`s suggestion ist not included in the programme.  But I am delighted to hear that there is a suggestion from Rainbow Sangat this year.  I attended the festival for the first time last year and really missed any visible presence of others like me!
Unfortuntely, I can`t be at the festival this year, but I will be there next year and am keen to make the rainbow sangat visible.
Keep up the good work and enjoy the festival,
best wishes
Sanmukh Kaur (Patricia Bell)

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Cristophe Degraeuwe

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Jul 26, 2012, 4:13:19 AM7/26/12
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sat nam!
thanks for informing us about this evolution... try to come together in an informal way during the festival... Put some posters up and create some discussion! It is important that gay people feel welcome there too!
I can also not attend the festival this year as I am breaking up my tents in Africa. But next year I want to help organizing the rainbow-sangat towards the EU yoga festival. 
Love to All!

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Surinder Kaur

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Jul 26, 2012, 6:25:26 AM7/26/12
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Sat Nam dear Rainbow Sangat,
So sorry to hear the EYF has not included any mention of the RS program proposals, this must be the third year the RS has sent forth a proposal so it is quiet odd it has been totally ommited.
As Raghurai points out, we as a group are also slow at coming forward ourselves and it would seem we need to be more visible and proactive as a group. Does the group need to be more cohesive within its self? if so how do we achive this?
That said unfortunately I myself  will not be at this years EYF.
I am based in London, and frequently work in Ireland and Germany and hoping to connect with the international RS on any level asap.
Wishing you all much courage and connection at this years EYF.
With love and blessings
Surinder Kaur 



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Sohan Kaur

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Jul 27, 2012, 4:41:26 AM7/27/12
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wahe guru  - i am back into the loop, also back into the group of which i fell out for some reasons...

i spoke to adi yesterday who designes the program. for being included in the printed version we were simply to late  - for not being included in the up to date electronic version i would suggest some form of "guerrilla advertising" for announcing at least 1 meeting in the evening to agree on next years activities:
(just a brainstorming)
- flyers with the rainbow flag & the adi shakti + the info which day to meet
- poster at the bulletin board

my feeling is that we have to find a structure ourselves to face the structure (which is inherent homophobic).
occupied space (which has a link to our visibility or non-visibility) will never be given up without some sort of pressure...

looking forward seeing some of you soon!
sohan

Surinder Kaur

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Jul 27, 2012, 7:33:35 AM7/27/12
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Sat Nam dear Sohan Kaur

Thank you for your brain storming ideas!
Regarding forming our own structure, I feel this is a very important point, untill we form our own core with really can not move forward. 
As many of us cannot attend the EYF it may be an idea to also organise meeting somewhere else , 
at other international events or in smaller groups in our own countrys.
anyone got any suggestions on this?

blessings
Surinder Kaur



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