Railscamp Melbourne, June 21—24

[Ben Schwarz]

Go register!

http://railscamps.org

http://melb13.railscamps.org

[Ben Schwarz]

Reminder folks: You have until midnight on Monday to register for Railscamp, so get in the ballot ASAP!

[Mike Bailey]

What process is being used for the ballot draw? 

Has a transparent ballot been considered? Given it's a community event open to anyone I think a transparent process would be good.

- Mike

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On 17/05/2013, at 12:21 PM, Ben Schwarz <ben.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

Reminder folks: You have until midnight on Monday to register for Railscamp, so get in the ballot ASAP!

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[Christopher Chow]

I'm going to guess that the ballot drawing will be done with some sort of simple Ruby script? Be great if that was put up in a gist or repo.

Chris

[Tim Lucas]

On Friday, May 17, 2013 12:45:55 PM UTC+10, Mike Bailey wrote:

What process is being used for the ballot draw? 

Has a transparent ballot been considered? Given it's a community event open to anyone I think a transparent process would be good.

I'm in charge of the ballot, and I'll be trying to make it transparent as practically possible.

The code's open source already:

https://github.com/benschwarz/railscamp-13 

I'm working on the random allocation script now. I emailed this the other day to the Basecamp we're using to organise the camp:

https://gist.github.com/toolmantim/0072595dff7777d2c0d1

Aside from those helping to organise the camp, everyone will be in the ballot and randomly allocated from a single run of a yet-to-be-commited Ruby script.

— tim

[Ben Hoskings]

Bah, ruby, who needs it? :)

    UPDATE entrants SET chosen = true WHERE id IN (

      SELECT id FROM entrants ORDER BY random() LIMIT 100

    )

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[Mike Bailey]

The IETF came up with a cool way of running a selection process.

FWIW, the IETF came up with a cool way of running a selection process
that's protects the organisation against bias (and claims of bias).

It's a really geeky thing to do but pretty cool at the same time. You
decide on a publicly observable source of randomness and publish the
algorithm you'll use using to apply it to the candidates.

I'd be happy to write a script if we wanted to use it.

- Mike

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2777.txt

Publicly Verifiable Nomcom Random Selection

This document describes a method for making random selections in such
a way that the unbiased nature of the choice is publicly verifiable.

As an example, the selection of the voting members of the IETF
Nominations Committee from the pool of eligible volunteers is used.
Similar techniques would be applicable to other cases.

[Warren Seen]

Randomness as a Service: http://www.random.org/clients/http/

:)

[Philip Arndt]

I think we should *seriously* consider having a police officer draw out names from a barrel which they spin before each selection.

[Gus Gollings]

On 17/05/2013, at 3:58 PM, Ben Hoskings <b...@hoskings.net> wrote:

> Bah, ruby, who needs it? :)
>
> UPDATE entrants SET chosen = true WHERE id IN (
> SELECT id FROM entrants ORDER BY random() LIMIT 100
> )

Ha! That's awesome ;)

I was thinking:

>> entrants.shuffle.first(QUOTA)

BTW, I wonder if ballot is the wrong word? It's not really a vote.

Perhaps a raffle or lottery is more the activity at hand.

Regards,

Gus

[Ben Schwarz]

The site code is already available on my github account — the ballot will be a random script written by Tim & I. 

I'd rather not get into the community reviewing our code or creating further overhead for us. 

… You'll see the code committed on github, I don't think anyone needs to see more than that.

[Ben Taylor]

BTW, I wonder if ballot is the wrong word? It's not really a vote.

In this case, perhaps the one doing the voting is Rails itself. Making this a true Rails Camp.

Although it's using Sinatra… so not Rails. Which fits with my experiences at Rails Camp.

- Ben

[fresh...@gmail.com]

Nah, at Rails Camp it would be something written in Go that compiles to asm.js.

James

[Jon Rowe]

Please… Real RailsCampers use butterflies...

Jon Rowe

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[Ben Taylor]

And then converted to JSFuck? http://www.jsfuck.com/

- Ben

[Tim Lucas]

Mike: neat! Pull request? ;) If not let me know, as I'll just do the simpler and probably sufficient, but decidedly less cool, one-liner SQL. We've plenty else to chew off in the next few weeks…

[Mike Bailey]

I'd be happy to write it over the weekend. Peer review would be appreciated. :-)

- Mike

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On 17/05/2013, at 9:50 PM, Tim Lucas <t.l...@toolmantim.com> wrote:

> Mike: neat! Pull request? ;) If not let me know, as I'll just do the simpler and probably sufficient, but decidedly less cool, one-liner SQL. We've plenty else to chew off in the next few weeks…
>

[Tim Lucas]

On Friday, May 17, 2013 11:59:34 PM UTC+10, Mike Bailey wrote:

I'd be happy to write it over the weekend. Peer review would be appreciated. :-)

Cool, please do! In the mean time I've just finished a simple version of selection script which we can run on Tuesday morning:

https://github.com/benschwarz/railscamp-13/blob/master/script/allocate_ballot

Feel to get hold of me (email, twitter DM, github comment) if you have any questions…

— tim