Map of Rails Shops?

[PAT CHEUNG]

hi, relatively new to this group.

Is there a map out there showing where y'all are located? preferably with a different marker designating rails shop vs. freelancer. 

would be nice to visually get an idea of where you're all at. 

...and yes, i am a stalker. 

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[Evan Light]

Huh.  That's a kinda neat idea.  We need a Google Map of the shops in this group.

[Josh Susser]

I wonder if there is a google maps mashup with the WWR profiles.

--josh

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[PAT CHEUNG]

the wwr profiles might "cloud" up such a map...since they're not all active rails consultants. 

if 10 ppl reply thinking it's worthwhile...i can just start a simple shared google map, with some simple rules (e.g. shops in green markers, freelancers in red markers, short description with link, etc). it should take all of 5 mins. 

someone can always do a more involved mashup later (e.g. on the future rmm website, etc).

let me know. 

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[Robert Dempsey]

+1 from me. I'd be curious to see it.

Sincerely,  

Robert Dempsey, CEO
Atlantic Dominion Solutions

http://adsdevshop.com
http://twitter.com/rdempsey
Phone: 321-274-4684

[Bob Martens]

I think that would be pretty cool.

On Mar 3, 1:13 pm, PAT CHEUNG <rapata...@gmail.com> wrote:
> the wwr profiles might "cloud" up such a map...since they're not all active
> rails consultants.
> if 10 ppl reply thinking it's worthwhile...i can just start a simple shared
> google map, with some simple rules (e.g. shops in green markers, freelancers
> in red markers, short description with link, etc). it should take all of 5
> mins.
>
> someone can always do a more involved mashup later (e.g. on the future rmm
> website, etc).
>
> let me know.
>
> --
> pat cheung
> p...@methink.comwww.methink.com
>

[Robert Bazinet]

Sure, I would love to see it.

-Rob

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:13 PM, PAT CHEUNG <rapa...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Kurt Schrader]

I'd be interested as well.

-Kurt

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[John Moody]

Me too…

 

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[Christopher Bailey]

Me too.

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[Agustín Cuenca]

Check:

http://www.rubymash.com/


Is this what you are looking for?

2009/3/4 Christopher Bailey <ch...@cobaltedge.com>

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[Julio Javier Cicchelli]

Yep, I think so.

Best regards,
Javier.-

[Robby Russell]

For locality based searches, if your company is on LinkedIn, you're
able to search for companies based on proximity in their search
directory. Can search for "Ruby on Rails" near 97209 for example.

Robby

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[PAT CHEUNG]

that basically looks like what i had in mind. 

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[dynamic50]

Hi, we created the rubymash.com site.

I was thinking about doing the same for freelancers, but can't decide
whether it would be better to geolocate them by trawling wwr or just
allow people to manually add. What are your thoughts?

Jason Green

http://www.dynamic50.com

[Bob Martens]

Go with manually adding, I would think, and there has to be some way
to keep the listing updated as well. Perhaps make it so that an email
is automatically sent out every quarter that has a link to re-up their
"listing at the current spot." I don't know, just speaking out of my
butt again.

[PAT CHEUNG]

i agree with manually adding...user generated content much more palatable than scrubbed data.

also...maybe add 3 pushpin types (rails freelancer, rails consulting shop, companies that use rails)

for example, i wanted to find rails consulting shops in my city, los angeles, and found media temple and att (not exactly what i was looking for). 

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[John Moody]

It seems to me that the line between “rails freelancer” and “rails consulting shop” can get rather blurry. For example: I’m a one-man operation, but I use subcontractors on larger projects. Am I a “freelancer” rather than a “consulting shop” just because I don’t have another full-time employee?

 

- John

http://mentalvelocity.com

 

 

From: rails-b...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rails-b...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PAT CHEUNG
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:23 AM
To: rails-b...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [rails-business] Re: Map of Rails Shops?

 

i agree with manually adding...user generated content much more palatable than scrubbed data.

[Robert Dempsey]

John - do you advertise under a company name or your own?

Sincerely,  

Robert Dempsey, CEO
Atlantic Dominion Solutions

http://adsdevshop.com
http://twitter.com/rdempsey
Phone: 321-274-4684

[Chris Barnes]

I'm interested to know the opinions.  Before reading this post, I considered myself freelance because I'm just one guy but I'm incorporated and I also subcontract most of my design work.  What factor or factors would you consider when deciding if someone were freelance or a consulting shop?

Chris Barnes
http://www.randomutterings.com

[John Moody]

Company name.  I guess that makes it a “shop”, which is how I market.

 

- John

http://mentalvelocity.com

 

 

From: rails-b...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rails-b...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Dempsey
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:04 AM
To: rails-b...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [rails-business] Re: Map of Rails Shops?

 

John - do you advertise under a company name or your own?

[Robert Dempsey]

I think that's the main differentiator - how you show yourself to the world. If you are going by your name only, I'd say freelancer. If you have a company name, I'd say shop. A shop can be only one.

Sincerely,  

Robert Dempsey, CEO
Atlantic Dominion Solutions

http://adsdevshop.com
http://twitter.com/rdempsey
Phone: 321-274-4684

[Jason Cartwright]

Yeah, that is a blurry line for one-man shops. I would agree it depends on how you brand your services, and how you structure your relationships with your clients. If you do everything on a W2 or 1099, you're primarily a freelancer. But if you structure relationships corp-to-corp and utilize, or plan to utilize subs or employees, then most definitely a shop.

Jason Cartwright
CTO & Cofounder
CogWise Software LLC
www.cogwisesoftware.com

[Josh Susser]

I'm curious how much clients care about that distinction.  For the purpose of finding someone to do work for you in a particular area, does it matter?

--josh

[Robert Dempsey]

I've seen people looking specifically for freelancers rather than firms, and vice versa.

Sincerely,  

Robert Dempsey, CEO
Atlantic Dominion Solutions

http://adsdevshop.com
http://twitter.com/rdempsey
Phone: 321-274-4684

[Bob Martens]

I would say it depends on the person looking, just like everything
else in business.

On Mar 6, 2:06 pm, Josh Susser <j...@hasmanythrough.com> wrote:
> I'm curious how much clients care about that distinction.  For the  
> purpose of finding someone to do work for you in a particular area,  
> does it matter?
>
> --josh
>
> On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Jason Cartwright wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah, that is a blurry line for one-man shops. I would agree it  
> > depends on how you brand your services, and how you structure your  
> > relationships with your clients. If you do everything on a W2 or  
> > 1099, you're primarily a freelancer. But if you structure  
> > relationships corp-to-corp and utilize, or plan to utilize subs or  
> > employees, then most definitely a shop.
>
> > Jason Cartwright
> > CTO & Cofounder
> > CogWise Software LLC
> >www.cogwisesoftware.com
>

> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Robert Dempsey <robertonra...@gmail.com

> > > wrote:
> > I think that's the main differentiator - how you show yourself to  
> > the world. If you are going by your name only, I'd say freelancer.  
> > If you have a company name, I'd say shop. A shop can be only one.
>
> > Sincerely,
>
> > Robert Dempsey, CEO
> > Atlantic Dominion Solutions
>
> >http://adsdevshop.com
> >http://twitter.com/rdempsey
> > Phone: 321-274-4684
>

> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM, John Moody <j...@mentalvelocity.com>  

> > wrote:
> > Company name.  I guess that makes it a “shop”, which is how I market.
>
> > - John
>
> >http://mentalvelocity.com
>
> > From: rails-b...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rails-b...@googlegroups.com
> > ] On Behalf Of Robert Dempsey
> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:04 AM
> > To: rails-b...@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [rails-business] Re: Map of Rails Shops?
>
> > John - do you advertise under a company name or your own?
>
> > Sincerely,
>
> > Robert Dempsey, CEO
> > Atlantic Dominion Solutions
>
> >http://adsdevshop.com
> >http://twitter.com/rdempsey
> > Phone: 321-274-4684
>

> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, John Moody <j...@mentalvelocity.com>  

> > wrote:
>
> > It seems to me that the line between “rails freelancer” and “rails  
> > consulting shop” can get rather blurry. For example: I’m a one-man  
> > operation, but I use subcontractors on larger projects. Am I a  
> > “freelancer” rather than a “consulting shop” just because I don’t  
> > have another full-time employee?
>
> > - John
>
> >http://mentalvelocity.com
>
> --

> Josh Susserhttp://blog.hasmanythrough.com

[Jason Cartwright]

Sorry, this thread appears to have been hi-jacked.

I would imagine everyone has had varying experiences and would decide between a freelancer vs. a firm based in part on those experiences, on the specific need, and based on the availability and cost of qualified talent. Vetting individuals can be difficult and time-consuming, and some would rather employ a firm with a deeper pool of existing resources. Whereas, some might feel they have better control with an individual when working one-on-one. Lots of factors, varying degrees of risk... a very individual decision.

Jason

[Bob Martens]

To kind of get it back on task, to update the current site to
differentiate between freelance/company/usage-only would be kind of
cool. I still think there might need to be a way to update as people
are inactive as well.

Just a thought.

On Mar 6, 3:09 pm, Jason Cartwright <jasonecartwri...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry, this thread appears to have been hi-jacked.
>
> I would imagine everyone has had varying experiences and would decide
> between a freelancer vs. a firm based in part on those experiences, on the
> specific need, and based on the availability and cost of qualified talent.
> Vetting individuals can be difficult and time-consuming, and some would
> rather employ a firm with a deeper pool of existing resources. Whereas, some
> might feel they have better control with an individual when working
> one-on-one. Lots of factors, varying degrees of risk... a very individual
> decision.
>
> Jason
>

[Philip Hallstrom]

Since everyone seems to have a different feeling as to what a shop vs
freelancer is, instead of making people pick (i'm a one man shop as
well) why not let them enter the size of the company (optionally).
Maybe group it into 1, 2-5, 5-10, 10-20, 20+ or something.

[Bob Martens]

On Mar 6, 3:27 pm, Philip Hallstrom <phi...@pjkh.com> wrote:
> Since everyone seems to have a different feeling as to what a shop vs  
> freelancer is, instead of making people pick (i'm a one man shop as  
> well) why not let them enter the size of the company (optionally).  
> Maybe group it into 1, 2-5, 5-10, 10-20, 20+ or something.

That sounds almost reasonable. However, you want to also be able to
add in whether the company is for-hire or they just use it internally
through Trojan-horse tactics.

[dynamic50]

I have just added Freelancers to http://www.rubymash.com.

I decided to just have the two categories -> companies and
freelancers. What does everyone else think?

Kind regards,

Jason Green

http://www.dynamic50.com

On 6 Mar, 20:17, Robert Dempsey <robertonra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've seen people looking specifically for freelancers rather than firms, and
> vice versa.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Robert Dempsey, CEO
> Atlantic Dominion Solutions
>

> http://adsdevshop.comhttp://twitter.com/rdempsey
> Phone: 321-274-4684

[Julio Javier Cicchelli]

I think it's really good! Great job!

Best regards,
Javier.-

[dynamic50]

Thanks! :-)

On Mar 13, 8:49 am, Julio Javier Cicchelli

<javier.cicche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it's really good! Great job!
>
> Best regards,
> Javier.-
>

> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:24 AM, dynamic50 <jason.gr...@dynamic50.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have just added Freelancers tohttp://www.rubymash.com.

[Bob Martens]

Awesome, thanks for the work.

[Jason Green]

Hi,

We have just added a map for Rails jobs to Rubymash now. Companies can
upload jobs associated to their company and you can see them on the map.

http://www.rubymash.com

Jason Green

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