How do you create backup?

[Mithat Arslan]

How do you create backups? and whats the default password? thanks

[Colin LeMahieu]

That's a good question, I wrote a Wiki entry describing wallet backups.

https://github.com/clemahieu/raiblocks/wiki/Wallet-Backups

[clem...@raiblocks.net]

It can be imported through the gui with "advanced" -> "wallets" -> "import" or on the command line with "wallet_import" and you can see command line options with --help.

I'll add it to the wiki and clean up the gui next release.

[s11m8...@gmail.com]

Hallo,

I am still struggeling importing my old .json backups...
It looks like this:

filename:  34B54...D3.json

{
    "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001",
    "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001": "0DA53C....C21E9C8...C8B5250593BE",
    "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002": "767D8D....A58B5FE...B93A2BF47E49A",
    "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000003": "913A29....DF49BA1...A24851D8FC",
    "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004": "2399A0....D33161C...",
    "01F8...09E8B..."                                                                                         : "3292DD....D09FCE1...B61C2",
    "10B9...25100B1CE71855F859116FAC00...":                                                 : "F39834....B3A7898...2921AD",
    "1631...A944303624AE"                                                                               : "284603....C7499B0...06953D",
    "4E86...24893C1A131A..."                                                                            : "F887E2....AA7429E...B4C62E6B05",
    "520E...D2378D5FFF170..."                                                                          : "D90A2E....FEF59AF...D278E024F3D8C1B",
    "6E2F...BB131334E5C0"                                                                              : "9CC203....DAF7605...   

    "98C5...BA409361D6C3DD6FB72013F"                                                         : "0E3F75....AAA7E1C...E85",
    "A70C...18D569B31F2241178B3E17EDDA03"                                                : "6ACA5F....F79E848...6077E3",
    "B48F...F67A019DAEA5B92DA73"                                                                : "E3A722....3448E62...86BDF9F07",
    "DDD9...BFDE00F66"                                                                                   : "2ABB71....A3259D5...ADDF06"
}

I now have set up a docker node and I want to import the backup there. How to do i

[Colin LeMahieu]

I added some more information at the end of the wiki page on how to import old style wallets using docker.

https://github.com/clemahieu/raiblocks/wiki/Wallet-Backups

Basically you put the backup file in to your ~/RaiBlocks directory, pick or create a wallet id to place the imported keys, and use the rai_node --wallet_import command to do the import.

[s11m8...@gmail.com]

Hey,

I read that your wiki entry but I still dont get it... Simply using windows wallet v7.4.3

i copied my bakup.json into C:\Users<user>\AppData\Local\RaiBlocks\backup
--> C:\Users<user>\AppData\Local\RaiBlocks\backup\E34ABLP...veryLongName.json

No i opened the wallet -> Advanced -> Accounts -> Import wallet
Now there are 3 Textboxes. I entered  E34ABLP...veryLongName.json in the third (Filename: as Label) but the filename remains red.
clicking on import seems to do nothing. No warning nothing.

Any suggestions? Why not the possibnnility to browse files ? Did I have to copy E34ABLP...veryLongName.json into the backup folder ?

[wutab...@gmail.com]

Okay, instead of the fileName I have to enter the whoel filePath...
However the app freezes while importing.

The logs say something like this:

• Initiating bootstrap to: [::ffff:11...
• Initiating bootstrap connection to [::ffff:11...
• Initiating bootstrap to: [::ffff:19..
• ...
  
• Disconnecting from: [::ffff:72... because bootstrap in progress
• Exiting bootstrap client
• Receive error: [translated into english: No connection possible, target computer refuses connection]
• Error initiating bootstrap connection
• Exiting bootstrap client
• (1min later) Receive error: [translated: No connection possible, target computer refuses connection]
• (1min later) Receive error: [translated: No connection possible, target computer refuses connection]
• (1min later)  Receive error: [translated: No connection possible, target computer refuses connection]

[Colin LeMahieu]

Does it consistently freeze when importing?  Has your wallet ever finished syncing?  I don't think syncing would make a different but it's just more information.

I'll try to test this section out again.  There haven't been many requests to import old style wallets so it probably isn't well exercised.  

[s11m8...@gmail.com]

Hello,

I now tried after wallet was fully synced. (v7.4.1 - windows 7 64bit) I made a transfer from one account to another. After that I retried importing the backup.
App still frozen after 5 minutes. No new logs generated after Work generation for the transfer...

•  Exiting bootstrap client
• Work generation complete: 3438476 us

I tried importing via docker node. Same thing. Docker node gets stuck, no return ever happens. (v7.4.3 ubuntu)

All the other commands work just fine, except wallet_import.

[s11m8...@gmail.com]

CPU is at 98-99% the whole time. So it is doing something, but no idea what.
The wallet to import contains around 10 keys... most with 0 balance...

[clem...@raiblocks.net]

I found a deadlock situation while importing and upgrading simultaneously.

The fix should be in the new version, can you see if that fixes it?
https://github.com/clemahieu/raiblocks/releases/tag/V7.4.4

[s11m8...@gmail.com]

Hello,

Import is instant now. Cool!

What exactly is the advantage of using the seed accounts over adhoc accounts ?  Is there a security advantage , or does it only simplify  imports ?
If I lock my wallet with a password, do I have to remember the password as well if I know the seed, or is the seed sufficient to unlock the wallet?

Thanks for your time: Cool project. Hope you succeed :-)

[clem...@raiblocks.net]

The seed method is what we want to use going forward mostly because of the ease of backup. This file method is more difficult plus if you have a lot of accounts that means more backup data and you need to keep your backup up to date. With a seed there's nothing else to back up.

When you use the copy seed button that's the unencrypted form which is why it's essential to not store that in an unencrypted file and it's probably best to keep it on paper.

On a side note you'll need to unlock your wallet in order to access or change the seed. This should make sense because locking our wallet means it's encrypted.

[Mikel Urbina]

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