McKay Marine Badged R/R Chelsea Clock

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

Ever seen such a clock before?

McKay Marine who made radio room installations had a badged Chelsea clock for them in WW2.

David

[John J. Miller]

I know that all radio installations in WW2 belonged to the Maritime Administration and when a ship went into layup, the first thing removed were the RR Clocks, (And probably others).

73

JJ Miller

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[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

No RCA versions though.

From Eric.
From: "Chelsea Clock Repairs"

Hello David

 

Although RCA did buy a few of these clocks they did not put their name on them. Only some companies that bought them wanted their name on the face of the clock as well as our name but RCA was not one of them. Companies such as M. Low, Baker - Lyman and Company, Sun Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Company as well as the US Maritime Commission and the US Coast Guard did have their names on the clocks. Hopefully this information is helpful to you. Our offices are closed for the weekend and your email has been answered from a home office location. our regular business hours are Monday - Thursday 9 am - 5 pm and Friday 9 am - 4:30 pm Eastern Time.

 

Thank You

 

Eric Parziale

Front Desk/Reception

Chelsea Clock

101 Second Street

Chelsea, MA 02150

P- 617-884-0250 Ext. 430

F- 617-884-8639

E- rep...@chelseaclock.com

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From: djri...@gmail.com [djri...@gmail.com] on behalf of D.J.J. Ring, Jr. [n1...@arrl.net]

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 9:45 AM
To: Chelsea Clock Repairs
Subject: RE: McKay Marine Badged R/R Chelsea Clock

You don't remember if RCA / RMCA (Radio Marine Corporation of America) the marine division of RCA which also produced radio telegraph consoles for merchant ships ever had a special face like the Mackay Marine one here?

If so I'd love to see one!

73

DR

On Mar 4, 2017 6:50 AM, "Chelsea Clock Repairs" <rep...@chelseaclock.com> wrote:

Hello David

 

We recently had one in for repair. Some of the clocks they had bought from us bear their name on them as we also used to do for other companies and the government so yes we certainly have seen one before. Our offices are closed for the weekend and your email has been answered from a home office location. Our regular business hours are Monday - Thursday 9 am - 5 pm and Friday 9 am - 4:30 pm Eastern Time.

 

Thank You

 

Eric Parziale

Front Desk/Reception

Chelsea Clock

101 Second Street

Chelsea, MA 02150

P- 617-884-0250 Ext. 430

F- 617-884-8639

E- rep...@chelseaclock.com

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From: djri...@gmail.com [djri...@gmail.com] on behalf of D.J.J. Ring, Jr. [n1...@arrl.net]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 11:42 PM
To: Radio Officers &c
Subject: McKay Marine Badged R/R Chelsea Clock

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

My copy shows no picture.  I will try this again if you do not mind.

Here it is (hopefully).

​

73

DR

[Paul Du Mesnil]

Had one like that in the photo in a couple of ships but without the words “Mackay Radio” on it’s face. Now I have the solid brass one. A beauty.

 

Just came back from a trip to Quebec City where I was awarded a plaque at the golden anniversary for the graduates of the Merchant Marine School of Rimouski (now called “Institut Maritime du Quebec”). I was the only former student in the Radio section attending but the MC spent more time talking about my 41-year long career than about the rest of the group! Funny. I guess some people recognize the services of Radio Officers after all.

 

Paul Du Mesnil

 

 

 

 

From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr.

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 11:57 PM

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[spudr...@eastlink.ca]

Way to go Paul. Congratulations. The QUEEN had a clock identical to that without the Mackay writing on it. We wound it every Sunday. For some unknown reason it gained south of 32N and lost north of that area, or vice versa. It must have had something to do with the earth’s magnetic field – or something. Any other guesstimates?

I have two of them. One silver and the other brass but with the modern electric movement and the green markings for radiotelephone. I received them both for making code practice tapes for the reserve navy.

 

Spud VE1BC

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[Paul Du Mesnil]

Tks Spud.

 

Re. the clocks...My brass one also has the R-T silence periods but it is the wound type, not battery-operated. I wind it every Monday and Friday. I remember while at sea with the wound ones that, yes, at different latitudes they tended to lose or gain. However, I think, a bigger factor was the ambient temperature, especially in non-air conditioned ships. I can’t remember if they gained or lost when it got hotter but definitely recall that they reacted in different ways in temperate vs. tropical areas. Makes senses really: the warmer, the more metal expands therefore possibly affecting the movements of all the metal components of the clock. And in some of the ships I sailed in sometimes it got to be 100F in the radio-room with no breeze in the evening with the portholes opened, e.g. “Lady Franklin”/VOCP in both the Gulf of Panama and the Gulf of Aden. Horrible.

 

73

 

Paul

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[Edward Collins]

Hi David,

A radio-room clock from this side of the pond.

A Benora Hamburg since 1886 signed with a quartz movement. 

Bought on Ebay from a ship salvage company in India after a long search for a genuine radio-room clock.

Search on net has revealed very little information on the Benora clock company. If anybody has information on the clock or company I would appreciate it.

It keeps excellent time. 

73 de Ned/EI5DS 

Ex R/O & E/O 1970/77

[jo...@morsemad.com]

I have a Quartz Marine R/R clock.   COPE.  NOTTINGHAM. QUARTZ-MARINE. MADE IN ENGLAND.  6" DIA. Casing ABT. 3" deep. Anyone come across this maker before ?              John Snell / G0RDO http://www.morsemad.com -------Original Message-------

From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. Date: 05/03/2017 03:57:44 To: Radio Officers &c Subject: [Radio Officers, &c] Re: McKay Marine Badged R/R Chelsea Clock

My copy shows no picture.  I will try this again if you do not mind. Here it is (hopefully). ​

73 DR On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:42 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1...@arrl.net> wrote: > Ever seen such a clock before? > > McKay Marine who made radio room installations had a badged Chelsea clock > for them in WW2. > > David

[spudr...@eastlink.ca]

Right on Paul. That makes sense and as you know the QUEEN was a sister of the PRINCE that you sailed in and they were not air conditioned. Actually they were the last two ships built at Kearney, New Jersey. Have a good one!

Spud

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[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

And who says you're Conductor of the Magic R/O Steam Engine, Dining Car, and Loony Caboose is to be outdone?  "Not I," says I.

Here is what is on my chest-of-drawers on my bedroom ticking away.  A custom Chelsea R/R clock (no RT green, only WT silence periods) in a genuine Chelsea button push to open brass case (really heavy thing), and in a Chelsea mantle stand of mahogany - oops it would not fit the "wind-only" Chelsea clocks, only the ship bell type, so I had it carved, sanded smooth, and stained to match by a local high class furniture maker.  Don't ask what it cost me, my two solaces are:  1) No One Else Has One and 2) there is a just released - perhaps after I brought mine to Chelsea factory in Chelsea to show them - similar version with the time-only movement but in the non-radio dial that costs far more what this cost me. So I guess (ouch) it was a good investment.  Sometimes an investment is just the pleasure of smiling at the R/R clock and smiling because you're the only house in the area with a clock set to UTC with a white hand indicating local time, or the pleasure at the minimal effort required to reset local time when Daylight Savings time starts and stops.

73

David

[maltesejohn]

tks OM thats a very impressive piece. well thought, unique and a lovely ornament. Thanks for sharing.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

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