Boost + ASL 2.0

[sirinath]

Hello,

Is it possible to license the Racket language under a more permissive license like ASL 2.0, MIT or Boost? There is some inertia to use a GPLed system by certain organisations.

Suminda

[Jay McCarthy]

We are currently comparing the alternatives and will discuss them at our next meeting. 

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[Suminda Dharmasena]

Sounds great.

Racket is great. One stumbling block is the License. If this is sorted I guess there will be more users in the industry.

[sirinath]

Also when would the meeting be? Just to get an idea of then to expect a decision.

[Robby Findler]

The racket leadership meets roughly quarterly but not on a set schedule. (We send out a brief minutes of the discussion each time.) And the meeting will probably discuss what we want to do and how to get started so its timing probably won't be exactly what you need anyway. 

Can you say a few more words about how this issue affects you specifically?

Thanks,

Robby

On Friday, November 4, 2016, sirinath <sirina...@gmail.com> wrote:

Also when would the meeting be? Just to get an idea of then to expect a decision.

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[Suminda Dharmasena]

Hello,

The issues:

• GPL family of licenses and left licenses is not whitelisted in certain organisations
• If you make any changes add internal functionality, even if it not relevant or has no chance of getting accepted into upstream, you cannot keep it proprietary when distributing
• In libraries you cannot make changes or hacks to the interface for workarounds which may not be relevant to upstream since this might to accommodate better fit with proprietary API 
• If some organisation is not using Racket because of the license, then this will increase adaptation hence the whole ecosystem
• Since it is Homoiconic and has metaprogramming, when code is generated and then optimised either in source or binary, it is not clear whether what license apply. You may not have consistent interface due to inlining and other optimisation and mixing of code from libraries in meta programming

S

[Vincent St-Amour]

Suminda,

I suspect most of us are already aware of these general issues.

I believe Robby was interested in hearing about how (a subset of) these
issues affect *you* personally, your company, etc. I'm certainly interested.

Vincent




On Sat, 05 Nov 2016 05:05:14 +0100,
Suminda Dharmasena wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> The issues:
>
> * GPL family of licenses and left licenses is not whitelisted in certain
> organisations
> * If you make any changes add internal functionality, even if it not

> relevant or has no chance of getting accepted into upstream, you
> cannot keep it proprietary when distributing

> * In libraries you cannot make changes or hacks to the interface for

> workarounds which may not be relevant to upstream since this might to
> accommodate better fit with proprietary API

> * If some organisation is not using Racket because of the license, then

> this will increase adaptation hence the whole ecosystem

> * Since it is Homoiconic and has metaprogramming, when code is generated

> and then optimised either in source or binary, it is not clear whether
> what license apply. You may not have consistent interface due to
> inlining and other optimisation and mixing of code from libraries in
> meta programming
>
> S
>

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[Suminda Dharmasena]

In our case we do not use any Open Source software which is dependent on GPL libraries transitively (except for building and testing) as a policy. Also we a much as possible avoid copyleft licenses (EPL, MPL, etc.) unless we have no other alternative.

[Tony Garnock-Jones]

I hope you're aware that Racket (and many of its libraries) is offered
under the *LGPL*, not the plain GPL.

Regards,
Tony

[Suminda Dharmasena]

I am aware of it.

[sirinath]

Who owns the Racket and library copyrights? Who will be enforcing the terms of the LGP License in case of Racket or the libraries?

[Sam Tobin-Hochstadt]

Copyright on Racket is owned by all of the contributors, since
copyright assignment is not required for contributing code to Racket.
You can see a list of some of the people who've contributed the most
code here: https://github.com/racket/racket/graphs/contributors

Sam

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:34 PM, sirinath <sirina...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who owns the Racket and library copyrights? Who will be enforcing the terms
> of the LGP License in case of Racket or the libraries?
>

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