Adobe Creative Cloud Pros And Cons
Prometeo Archuleta
Has anybody had luck downloading their adobe creative cloud onto the new MacBook Pro? It's frustrating to have this new powerful computer, but can't even work on photos and videos and the great programs on my adobe creative cloud subscription? I called apple support and they acted like there wasn't any problems and just said to update my IOS and that it was an Adobe issue, not an Apple issue. I'm kind of stuck, any suggestions as I assume people must be using Adobe on the new Macs?
Regarding your question on my process and when it happened, I was able several times to download the adobe installer but when you open up the adobe creative cloud download and all the apps you can download, every one starts to download until about 30%, then gives me a error code 301, unable to synch. I then uninstall the downloader and power off the computer and try it all over again. Every app on Adobe (photoshop, Lightroom etc.) all do the same thing, unable to synch, error code 301.
I just tried the direct download link and got the message showing that creative cloud is not yet available for devises using apple silicon and error code 25. That's even more frustrating as it sounds like there is no way to use adobe on a new Mac. Not sure where to go from here as it sounds like there is no workaround?
Since moving to the Creative Cloud software-as-a-service model, Adobe has been providing several feature updates per year to its software. But these features have come at a cost of ever-increasing system requirements, begging the question: Is it worth it?
Wasim Ahmad is an assistant teaching professor teaching journalism at Quinnipiac University. He's worked at newspapers in Minnesota, Florida and upstate New York, and has previously taught multimedia journalism at Stony Brook University and Syracuse University. He's also worked as a technical specialist at Canon USA for Still/Cinema EOS cameras.
I'm waiting on the next installment of the IMac. So, until then, I do LR and PS on a 13" Macbook connected to a big monitor. There are times, I swear, when these two packages run just fine until the latest update. Thereafter, postprocessing becomes a mine field: i.e., right after a critical/sweet edit, PS crashes!!! The recovered file never contains that sweet edit either! Software requirement are kind of a joke in that they're just the bare minimum meant to get the software package running. They can't possibly gauge my requirements for smooth running software.
On PC LR is running terribly slow for me, just like it always did, I have no 7000 USD monster machine, just humble i7-8700k, 32GB RAM and GTX 1060 6GB, but it should be enough to run LR smooth .. or perhaps it is just how it is for everybody and it is me .. sticking to Capture One .. PS runs just fine, even on Asus Zenbook .. at least for 36 and 45mpix photos usually with no more than 10 layers ..
For $52 per month I can process/edit photos, make videos, make special effects for videos, animate a cartoon, create vector art, write print or digital books, record a podcast, and host a portfolio website. It's not a bad deal if you're into mixed media, which is pretty much a requirement these days. There's also an entire network of free education and resources for those products.You can certainly use the cheaper options, it will cost you in time though.
So we should just give them our money, and not care about the performance of the software? Nobody is asking for a free or even cheap suite. Just asking for whatever we pay for to work adequately. Which is not the case, even with something as simple as LR, on a very recent and powerful machine.
I have switched from LR to C1 2 years ago, no way going back to Adobe. Never had their cloud subscription and I am still fine with my old PS CS5 expanded which works great for what I do.
It cost me $500 10 years ago to purchase it, it does everything I will ever need and if it does not then I have already Affinity installed on my macs to have a back up solution for that time... Adobe Cloud is nothing else then taking you hostages and with constant updating software to torpedo your hardware so it cannot keep up with requirements it is a new age piracy of this era :(... Digital era is great for photography , I would not even try to think to go back to darkroom times but we are being sucked for software, hardware, new bigger sensors etc... these days instead of buying films, emulsions and lab paper :) Interesting trade but we have chosen it so happy shooting... I hope other players starts to become more competition for Adobe guys since they are too spoiled and have to follow shareholders agendas of fast $$$ for last years , it will need some type of Godox type company in software engineering to compete and shake Adobe bit more :) Cheers.
For me, the insidious way Adobe gets me to upgrade is Camera Raw support, and they know it. I can't use any raw files from cameras 2015 and newer on CS6 without converting to DNG first. For personal stuff that's no big deal, but when I'm on deadline with a client, I often have to have stuff in during halftime or right after a game, I don't have time to do a conversion. I don't see why they can't extend camera raw support for any other reason than to force people to upgrade.
So first, Adobe's software isn't fast enough and they charge too much, so now they're putting out too many updates? Just say you don't like Adobe and thats' fine too. Do you just need/want a reason to complain about something? I have the entire suite (b/c I get a discount), but generally only use LR and don't have any performance issues and haven't in a while, but I guess everyone's milage is different.
They're creaming it in from us Adobe Tax subscribers and doing very little to actually improve things. Adding features we didn't know we need until they tell us we do.
I moan a lot about it, but I use a lot of their software, it's all integrated into my workflow, applications talk to each other.
I'm sort of used to the retarded nature of it all and to be honest, LR ingesting and creating previews is usually times with my tea breaks.
Everyday I experience their apps crashing when doing fairly routine basic things. Every update they release breaks vital plugins, fixes old bugs, adds new bugs. Most of their 'improvements' are 'horse shit', for lack of a better term.
Some examples:
Things like the new window that pops up in Photoshop every time you close all your other windows. Does anyone actually use that? It's slow and Or better yet, their New... window that pops up in Photoshop every time you try and create a new document. It literally takes SIX SECONDS to open that stupid window on my 2018 Macbook Pro quad i7 machine. That's just trying to create a new blank document! Sometimes it's quick, but lots of times it's slow as all get out. Luckily they finally added options to turn those two things off, but why make them defaults with an update? Or, the best one yet: After using Photoshop for 20 years I'm very used to holding the shift key to constrain when resizing or cropping. Yet with the last major release they switched it so now it's always constrained UNLESS you push shift to de-constrain. What the actual f!#k. Why?
InDesign only support one processor. ONE PROCESSOR... in 2019. Ever try to run a script that colors table cells based on cell text in a 100 page catalog? Yeah... don't. It takes 60 minutes even on a brand new very fast computer. You could damn near update all the colors by hand faster than waiting for that to work.
Premiere. You know how you can select a portion of your timeline to export? Why isn't it frame perfect? The in/out trim points can vary by up to 10 frames. I regularly deal with video exports from editors that start or end with 5-10 frames of blackness. Brilliant. It's been like that for years. And h.264 export times from Premiere? Don't get me started.
Illustrator. What used to be a fast sleek app is now a slow and kludgy POS. Open a floorplan DWG from a CAD software and all those little lines bring AI to its knees... sometimes. No rhyme or reason, but some files with lots of paths can literally take minutes just to select and move a few thousand points.
3) Very little has changed or improved with every additional 'feature' they provide. Rarely does a new tool or function radically change how we all use their apps. And of course the addition of these new 'features' makes for a bloated, slower, more buggy application.
4) Bizarre pricing schemes. Single apps are $20/month, all apps are $57/month... or Lightroom and Photoshop are $10/month? Wait, why is Photoshop CC half the price if you bundle it with Lightroom? Because of the difference in CC cloud capacity? Forget about it. Too bad I'm locked into an annual contract to get a more affordable price. Nice to know that if I cancel my account prior to the renewal date it will cost me 50% of the remaining service as a penalty. Sounds like Comcast Business!
For video editing, Premiere may be the 'industry standard', but it's honestly a steaming pile. Sure it can do everything under the sun, but almost nobody needs the ridiculous level of parameter control that it provides. Most editors I know barely touch more than a few of its base capabilities.
If you want pure speed and can bring yourself to think about editing in a more modern way, FCP X is fantastic. Is it perfect? No. Is it great? Yes. Most importantly it's fast as all get out. I regularly edit h.264 or h.265 4K content without transcoding. It exports h.264 at 2-4x the speed of Premiere. It offers all the tools you need when you need them, not as a prerequisite to doing a basic edit. And it smokes on just about any machine you put it on. If you want a more traditional nonlinear edit system similar to Premiere, use Resolve. It does just about everything Premiere does, and more (particularly in regards to color workflow). AND... it's free. Fricking free! Or $299 for the extremely featured Studio edition.
This. I still have one of my computers running the CS6 full suite that I paid for years ago and aside from adding 360 support to Photoshop and Premiere Pro, I can't see any functional differences in the software on my computers that run CC, only some fresh coats of paint on the interface, which hasn't changed all that much. It's a bit disappointing. If I didn't interface with clients and other folks that used CC, I'd be just fine without it, but the files aren't backwards compatible all the time seemingly without reason (I'm looking at you, InDesign).
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