Just Flight L1011

[Rode Neagle]

Sinceboth of the JF Tristar pro and cs L-1011 are on a same price now, I'm simply confused about which one to get. As a new release I 've never doubt about the level of simulation of the JF Pro version, but so do captainsim.

For the captainsim one we know they've always got a problem of unmodified super fast engine start problem which shouldn't be there on the just flight Tristar as they mentioned about customized engine start in the description. But for the cs L1011 they've used CIVA INS as always and which is the best INS simulation as we know, JF also seems to have completely simulated the INS according to description but it shouldn't be as complete as CIVA right ? Also for captainsim they've got WXR....

stray away from CS...i bought their package during xmas and if like me and several others upon loading it you may get a CTD - several tickets posted with CS and the only reply is to wait for a new installer....and this installer seems never to come out.

CS is a company I loath to promote because of my disappointment with their support. However, their L1011 is the best CS aircraft I own and I've personally never experienced the aforementioned start-up CTD. I managed to get it on sale last Christmas and have no regrets. It's quite a pleasure to operate and looks great.

I own both versions (got them both on sales) and prefer CaptainSim over JustFlight. I never had issues with the CS L1011. Graphically both models are on the same level, but the CS systems are much deeper, every button in the cockpit is simulated. I know that because the one drawback is that CS forgot to include an amplified checklist, so I had to create one from material I got on the web. Funny that you can go through all these system checks but CS won't tell what to do when

The JustFlight English Electric Canberra is apparently in a different league, and the first in a relatively new line of complex aircraft for FSX and P3D. They are currently developing a Panavia Tornado GR1 with the same (or even deeper) level of systems depth.

To clarify, the INS that comes with the Captain Sim L1011 and is available inside the VC is *not* the CIVA INS. You can install the CIVA but it is available as a 2D panel only. Their default INS isn't too bad, but the two displays in the VC are actually the same INS. They do not function independently. If you're not in the mood to program the LAT/LONG coordinates along the way it will load a FSX flight plan and execute it from beginning to end just by pressing a couple 'virtual' buttons once you have the INS initialized.

What is modeled is well done (the autoland capability is perhaps the strong point of this aircraft) , but I agree with Artur above, this isn't a "system deep" simulation and some features (mach climb, for example) are not modeled at all. That being said, it is a unique and interesting airplane to fly and worth the money, especially if you have an interest in aircraft of this vintage.

if you say that the CS L10111 is shallow then I wonder what planes would qualify as deep in your opinion. Below you may find an amplified check list that I personally created and verified with the CS version. All items on this list are modelled. That's definitely deep enough for me.

I'm not knocking the CS L1011 by any means--I fly it regularly, enjoy flying it and consider it a good buy. Plus, it performs well on my sub-par hardware and I've not had any VAS issues or problems described by others herein.

I've got the Captain Sim L-1011 Tristar for P3DV4 and am highly anticipating the release of the Just Flight 747 classic. So I'm here because I want to try them on vatsim (I've got a great website with a list of vintage airline routes that I'm keen to try) but unfortunately the L-1011 only has an INS primitive transponder and no TCAS instrument, and the 747 classic will apparently have a TCAS but an INS on release (although they've said they're considering adding an FMS down the line). Anyway, to get to the point I want to check in and make sure if I can fly it on VATSIM. The L-1011 INS has a little trick you can use to insert full flight plans, including SIDS/STARS, but obviously it's not exactly RNAV capable. So can I fly on vatsim without being a major pain in the ass, and if so, do I need to put any special remarks or comments in the flightplan? Or is it easier for everyone if I just fly offline and hope for a retrofit?

As a full remake of the famous TriStar aircraft, this mod brings to life a proper rendition of one of the most popular aircraft of its era. At the time of its release it dwarfed the vast majority of aircraft in the sky, opening up a mild revolution in the world of aviation that changed the face of aircraft for some time. Read more...

Although the aircraft was eventually de-commissioned due to the incredible cost of building the RB-211 engines for Rolls-Royce, it served a major purpose. The actual aircraft was so exceptionally expensive at the time that it nearly put Lockheed out of the game. They needed to take on a loan from the US Government just to survive!

Despite such an epic cost to the country, the TriStar was well loved during it's time of release. With this version of the aircraft, you get major changes and improvements that manage to capture everything good about the aircraft. In this package, you get four highly accurate remakes of the TriStar, including;

This wonderful and highly detailed remake of all four versions come equipped with some wonderful virtual cockpit designs. These also include a newly included engineer's panel, which gives you re-fueling commands for the K1 and KC1. Alongside this you'll have a fully working Inertial Navigation System which is only going to help you fly even better.

Across all four editions of this aircraft, you get an exceptionally well handled remake of the exterior model. This manages to capture many elements of the design that you would have been hoping for, including major changes such as;

A major element of the mod was that it included four unique aircraft. Each of these aircraft served a different purpose and thus they tended to have new attributes, making them worthy flight additions. These models are the following;

L-1011-500 - This first took to the skies in 1978 and became popular very quickly. It was an aircraft which introduced reduced fuselage sizes, by as much as 4m, and also increased fuel capacity. The aircraft could then fly for another 1,000 miles. It used a powerful RB211 engine to fly with safety and accuracy. It first served with British Airways and was a backbone for BA, with its exceptional range and aerodynamic strengths making it a favorite with BA for many years.

K1 - The K1 model was a hugely popular addition of the aircraft that makes an exceptionally useful add-on. This was two of the six RAF aircraft purchased, converted into the more versatile K1. The K1 is capable of carrying as many as 187 passengers at any given time and also made use of air-to-air re-fueling capacities to make it a worthy service. It also used directional infrared countermeasures systems to help ensure that it stayed safe in the skies. This made the K1 a popular choice with the RAF.

KC1 - The KC1 was also very popular, and made up the other four of the six that were not used for the K1 model. The KC1 added some new changes to the table, and was a major part of the RAF usage of this line of aircraft. This was able to carry 160 passengers as well as 30 tons of freight. It could also serve as an air-to-air re-fueling and cargo management system. This versatility made it a favorite, with the fuselage freight door included to allow the easy fitting, management and storage of major cargo pallets.

C2 - The C2, or C2A as it was commonly known, was also very popular with the RAF. This edition was purchased three times from TriStar via Pan Am. This then seen a major change in the way that the aircraft was used - before long it was put of military service such as C2s. it was also largely unchanged from the civilian style of the aircraft, although it could carry as many as 266 passengers and serve as an aeromedical ship. This made it a popular choice with the RAF as a support vehicle.

One of the major elements of this modification, though, was the introduction and inclusion of proper, official liveries. These liveries look wonderful and do a great job of carrying off the realism of the aircrafts look, feel and design. If you are unsure of what liveries you get, check out the list below.

Based in the United Kingdom, Just Flight, owned by Mastertronic Group has been in the simulation business since the early days of FS2000. Developing in-house creations and publishing flight sim add-ons from third-party developers for various platforms including MSFS, X-Plane, and Prepar3D.

But the advanced avionics is perhaps best known for its then novel autoland feature. While not the first commercial aircraft to be able to land itself (that goes to the Hawker Siddeley HS-121 Trident) it was the first widebody to get FAA certification to do so. What it meant was that the L-1011 could land in zero visibility conditions that would force other aircraft to divert.

Orbital Sciences (later known as Orbital ATK and today as Northrop Grumman Space Systems) was a company that specialized in an air-launched space booster. These boosters, called Pegasus, launch satellites and telescopes into orbit from an aircraft-based platform.

Orbital shopped around, looking for aircraft like the B-52G, a Boeing 747, and a DC-lO. Among the factors in choosing the plane, Orbital looked at the cost and complexity of modifications, the cost of the aircraft itself, and the cost to run it. Ultimately, Orbital landed on the L-1011 and in May 1992, the company picked up C-FTNJ from Air Canada, changing its registration to N140SC.

The major modifications which have been performed to configure the L-1011 for use as a Pegasus carrier aircraft include deletion of all unnecessary equipment and addition of equipment required to support Pegasus launch operations (a release mechanism; an opening for the Pegasus vertical stabilizer; equipment for monitoring and controlling Pegasus during captive carry flight; payload air-conditioning and nitrogen purge systems, and external video cameras).

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