Qnap Xpenology

[Giancarlo Stewart]

Lastmonth, I took the TS-251 from my drawer.

Because, The QTS (Qnap system) seemed to do periodic indexing on the HDD...some noise of HDD...

and I used the Synology NAS in my company. So, I prefer the Synology DSM.

As you know, NAS is the computer. So When TS-251 is boot start, Just press F2 key to enter BIOS setup.

I could changed the boot sequence in here.

So, I could run the file required for xpenology installation on USB and Installation is complete without some problem.

Even If I installed xpenology, I can re-initialized the Installation of QTS.

1. Power on again and again....

I can change the Auto Power on/off setting in Qnap Bios and xpenology DSM setting page.

I've disable Auto Power on. But, When I turn off the power (Power Off in DSM), it turns on again immediately. Again and again.

- I've changed all settings (BIOS and DSM setting), And it does not decrease the fan speed.

- I even installed "lm-sensors" on ssh, but it doesn't recognize the 'Controller' at all.

(I know The role of the 'Controller' monitors the CPU temperature and controls the FAN or LED lights.)

- Maybe, the driver(?) Prepared in synology does not work, or Qnap's controller is not famous, so it is not supported by Linux packages such as lm-sensors.

If you can figure out the control registers for your hardware you can recompile the program and set it to run at startup. Most likely you have temp sensor(s) between the drive bays that you need to read and act on. Alternatively just purchase one of these and hook up the chassis fan to it and put the probe close to the drives:

2. Fan Noisy.

Yes, It's Fan Speed problem.

As you know, normal NAS reduces the fan speed when booting for the first time. Therefore, it quickly becomes quiet.

However, Native xpenology on Qnap doesn't seem to have Fan Speed control.

Did you mamange/solve this problem?

Last year I builded small PC nas based on Xpenology and now I am fan of this solution.

I have old QNAP TS451 and I decided move it to Xpenology too. Everything went well and now I can use this OS based on DS920+ model with DSM 7.2.1-69057 Update 3.

And as author of this post I have exactly the same issues.

When I shutdown DSM via software then system automatically boot up. I tried different settings in BIOS without succees. I found on this forum that editig grub.cfg could help but I couldn't apply suggested solution as I didn't found that what I supose to change.

After installing lm-sensor I can only see temperatures of CPU cores and nothig more. Command sensor-detect is not reconized. I have no idea what else I can do to have control on fan apart from installing different fan with manual hardware control.

Hi, I know that there are posts related to lm-sensors/fancontrol but I would like write it here as I think this is specific problem for QNAP hardware.

I installed lm-sensors and lm-sensors-detect, that are results of those programs:

sensors:

Because I did many tests and reinstalled few times DSM I didn't check yet if fancontrol script will work. Currently DSM build in fan control app do not work but fortunately bios offer dynamic smart control depend of cpu temperature. Main issue is solved by bios upgrade - fixed shutdown.

Looking at a DS415+ or a 1515+ but given they use the same processor, which according to folks who have a 415+ and have tested it is incapable of transcoding 1080p on the fly at higher bitrates (something Synology themselves have confirmed with their literature) I don't see that they are really applicable for home power-users.

Now look at the QNap models - Quad core celeron 2.4Ghz up to i3 3.3Ghz processors, 2-16Gb RAM, HDMI port and capable of transcoding multiple streams simultaneously.... more money, sure - but it's more future-proof and has the potential for a LOT more memory , user-upgradable.

I have an older qnap that is running xpenology. I agree QNAP traditionally has had stronger hardware in their boxes (why I went with them over synology the last time), but the SW side is lacking. They have been playing catch-up in many areas to synology in their OS, and their mobile apps (especially for apple) are limited compared to Synology.

One thing to note, I have seem many on the qnap forums getting the x53 families up to 16GB of memory (even though qnap/intel only say 8GB). While it is "unsupported" there are several posts about it working.

It's horses for course personally I like the Synology DSM and it really comes down to the tasks people expect to perform with their NAS. The Synology system isn't really designed for hard core video streamers it's much more business orientated. For people serious about data storage and business applications it's hard to beat the Synology approach. It also helps delver the power of linux and many open source web technologies etc. to people who have little in the way of linux admin skills (myself included) in a relatively controlled, safe and secure environment.

I wouldn't be surprised if Synology are working on a couple of media orientated devices to supplement the domestic line-up. It's not as if it would be hard for them to add a video card and the required software packages. It's strange that they have taken so long to plug that gap in the market though? They have taken steps in that direction but they failed to deliver what people expect of a media center device.

Maybe I'm biased because I don't have an issue with using other devices to stream from the nas over the network. I have other interests that don't involve transcoding huge media files to massive flat panels in every room of the house.

If you are playing media from the same device that stores it then you don't need transcoding and I would recommend simply hooking a normal PC running XBMC up to your TV and store your videos there. Transcoding is used to convert media to a format which is compatible with a TARGET device. All that being said, Plex Media supports transcoding, its not like Synology doesn't allow you to transcode.

If you are dead-set on using XMBC on your NAS then I suggest reading up on linux compiling and integrating apps with DMS. You will need to compile XBMC with Synology Toolchain, build files & stuff you will need to integrate XBMC into DMS, build a DMS package to handle installing and setting up all this stuff via Package Manager.

The other transcoding use case is that you have your media stored on your NAS, but want to stream it remotely to your phone/tablet device. Depending on media format and device capabilities, you may need to have HW transcoding to be able to do that. This saves the headache of having to pre-download/convert media files prior to going to the gym/etc.

I personally like qnap better than synology. I like qmanager and qmobile more than synology equivalent iOS apps. Virtualization and the ability to have download station to use a proxy (and only the download station) are unique features of Qnap.

If your looking at qnap vs synology for enterprise level archiving, synology also offers better iscsi and NFS support then qnap. Enable iscsi on a qnap and watch it shit the bed. Well documented problem

You can. I tried to put TS-253D into TS-269 Pro. I recommend to pull out the USB DOM before loading any loader. It can boot, it read the disk (you will need to modify mymodel to point to the right device), it can install. But I encountered problems with connection to QNAP server. I can't install any app, the web server is broken, I can't do firmware upgrade, fan and temperature doesn't show correct value, etc. etc. Maybe with more tinkering I will eventually turn TS-269 Pro to TS-253D, but I stopped because I can run DVA3221 without any problem whatsoever on it, and Surveillance Station is exactly what I need. Check out my post in the german section that discuss this topic.

I find this interesting, but as I do believe pocopico is involved in the qnap project also, I do not think it has gotten much attention? I may be wrong. I wouldn't mind trying/playing Qnap, but overall Synology is the first name in NAS.

I'm going to be attempting this on my QNAP TS269Pro too. It looks like it has the same hardware as the Synology DS713+ and is an x86 machine. Really hoping that it works cause I'm pretty fed up with QTS and its security holes.

Not sure about anyone else's situation, but I bought my QNAP before I had done enough research into alternatives since I had some experience with QNAP's. So I've had my QNAP for a couple of years and kinda feel like I should stick with it rather than buy a new machine. I'm now trying to do some more advanced things other than just simple file sharing & media hosting and have started running into problems inherent in QTS (QNAP's OS).

It started off with stupid stuff like QNAP's built-in SSH Server only allows the 'admin' user to login, which makes hosting git repositories tricky. I've worked around that by installing an older version of OpenSSH through ipkg, but that version doesn't use QNAP's logging system or security system, so its impossible for me to tell if my server is under attack while the ipkg OpenSSH is running.

There are also a number of security vulnerabilities which QNAP seems to have no interest in fixing despite there being patches for them available. Overall I think that the QNAP hardware is very solid (although a bit overpriced), but their support and software are garbage.

I just followed the instructions on www.xpenology.nl to create my USB boot key. It used Win32DiskImager to make the boot key. Unfortunately the site is down right now. But I was able to get my TS269Pro to boot into the GRUB Bootloader and XPEnology installer. I need to get at least one additional hard drive before I plan on fully migrating to XPEnology.

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