you really need to check this out

[Britt Freeman]

joe rogan is a comedian, so there will be some nsfw language, but the point, and the stuff Damer talks about is highly fascinating.

http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/bruce-damer

--
"Depuis nos dieux et nos aspirations ne sont plus quelque chose mais
scientifiques, pourquoi ne devraient pas nos amours être tellement
aussi?" l'eve future-Villiers de l'Isle-Adam

[Britt Freeman]

i also wanted to add i don't usually jive wit the shamanism stuff, but it's interesting seeing an engineer from NASA talk about how steeped in shamanism he is.

makes me want to go read all leary's stuff and Huxley's doors of perception. (and yes, alan, watch altered states) 

:)