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Ken McVay Arrested and Jailed for Car Theft? Certainly Looks That Way!!

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Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken

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Feb 24, 2004, 10:19:10 PM2/24/04

Special Note:Ken McVay is the founder and director of The Nizkor Project based
in Nanaimo, British Columbia Canada

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=c1dhp...@enews4.newsguy.com&lr=&hl=en
(Archived locally as: McVayCarThief_1 AND McVayCarThief_2)
From: "Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org>
Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,can.taxes
Subject: Re: Bracegirdles Both Deserve Jail,Also Auditors-Crown Appeals
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:46:13 -0800
Organization: The Nizkor Project http://www.nizkor.org
Message-ID: <c1dhp...@enews4.newsguy.com>
Reply-To: "Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org>

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:46:13 -0800, <c1dhp...@enews4.newsguy.com> "Ken McVay,
OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> wrote:

>
>"Ken McVeigh" <KenMc...@iservejesus.com> wrote in message
>news:56cdd034.04022...@posting.google.com...
>> It seems that only the disgusting child molester pervert Ken McVay [NO
>> RELATION,thank God],feels that the criminal Bracegirdles should be not
>> sent to prison, together with the auditors!!
>>
>> But then, what can one expect from a convicted car thief!!
>
>It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own name.
>That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been arrested, let alone
>convicted, of any crime,

Well here are two returns from The American Jewish Committee which prove you
aren't telling the truth you crazy little Jail Bird you:

http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/Publications.asp?did=135&pid=21
(Link active February 11, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay)
Also: http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
(Link active February 23, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay2)

The American Jewish Committee

"Hate and the Internet
by Kenneth S. Stern

On-Line Approaches

"My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it were. They have an
agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they are lying about a specific issue,
I can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I’ve
done them some harm." – Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail.... <END>

-------------------------------------------------------

Oooops looks like you have been caught lying again McVay! The "American Jewish
Committee" reported: "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail" YET you stated above: "he has no evidence that I
have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime"!

Hey McVay care to retract your lie in which you stated above: "he has no
evidence that I have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime"?

Isn't being "Apprehended" the same thing as being "arrested"?

WordNet 2.0 Vocabulary Helper: apprehended
The verb apprehend has 3 senses (first 2 from tagged texts)
1. (2) get the picture, comprehend, savvy, dig, grasp, compass, apprehend -- get
the meaning of something; ``Do you comprehend the meaning of this letter?''
2. (1) collar, nail, apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody;
``the police nabbed the suspected criminals'' )
3. apprehend, quail at -- (anticipate with dread or anxiety)

Which sense of "apprehended" applies to Ken McVay? ANSWER: "collar, nail,
apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody; ``the police
nabbed the suspected criminals'' )

YOU DO HAVE A POLICE RECORD TOO! Care to deny it Jail Bird McVay?
Here's laughing at you!!

Here are your loyalists falling on their swords trying to do damage control and
failing quite miserably I might add!

John Morris:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 01:31:50 GMT, <28al30h5djms4h0f0...@4ax.com>
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

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>In <748l30pa49l5dmrjr...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 24 Feb 2004 00:52:55 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> "Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:
>>
>> >It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own
>> >name. That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been
>> >arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime,
>>
>> Is that so? Did this Jewish reporter lie when he reported this?
>>
>> http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/Publications.asp?did=135&pid=21
>> (Link active February 11, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay)
>> Also: http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
>> (Link active February 23, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay2)
>
>> The American Jewish Committee
>
>> "Hate and the Internet
>> by Kenneth S. Stern
>
>> On-Line Approaches
>
>> "My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it were.
>> They have an agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they are
>> lying about a specific issue, I can remove a few hundred people
>> from their potential market place, then I’ve done them some harm."
>> – Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his father’s
>> car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday
>> in a Bellingham, Washington, jail.... <END>
>
>> Oooops looks like you have been caught lying again McVay! The
>> "American Jewish Committee" reported: "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In
>> 1956 Ken McVay stole his father’s car and ran away from home.
>> Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in a Bellingham,
>> Washington, jail" YET you stated above: "he has no evidence that I
>> have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime"!
>
>> Isn't being "Apprehended" the same thing as being "arrested"?
>
>Is being apprehended as a juvenile runaway the same as being arrested
>as a car thief?

What the author stated: "In 1956 Ken McVay stole his father’s car and ran away
from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in a Bellingham, Washington,
jail"

WHY WAS HE APPREHENDED aka ARRESTED? For being a runaway!? NO!! He stole his
father's car!!!

>> YOU DO HAVE A POLICE RECORD TOO! Care to deny it Jail Bird McVay?
>
>Care to prove it.

Anyone confined to jail for car theft is entered into the system!

>Thought not.
>
>> Here's laughing at you!!
>
>Everybody laughs at you, Scott.

You and your band are not everybody!

<END>

Sara Salzman throwing out a red herring and nitpicking me referring to Kenneth
Stern as a "reporter":

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:04:47 -0700,
<catamont-DDCCB3...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>In article <748l30pa49l5dmrjr...@4ax.com>,
> Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken <F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> "Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:
>>
>> >It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own
>> >name. That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been
>> >arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime,
>>
>> Is that so? Did this Jewish reporter lie when he reported this?
>>
>> http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/Publications.asp?did=135&pid=21
>> (Link active February 11, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay)
>> Also: http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
>> (Link active February 23, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay2)
>>
>> The American Jewish Committee
>>
>> "Hate and the Internet
>> by Kenneth S. Stern

Why did you delete this and throw out your red herring?

("Hate and the Internet by Kenneth S. Stern)
"My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it were. They have an
agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they are lying about a specific issue,
I can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I’ve
done them some harm." – Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail.... <END>

Isn't being "Apprehended" the same thing as being "arrested"? YOU DO HAVE A
POLICE RECORD TOO! Care to deny it Jail Bird McVay? Here's laughing at you!!

>I LOVE it.
>
>HINT TO IDIOT: Kenneth Stern is not a "reporter.

So I erred in what I called him but the fact remains and which you wish to dodge
is McVay was caught in a lie when he stated: "It seems Bill Grosvenor is still
afraid to publish under his own name. That's because he has no evidence that I
have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime..." YET
Kenneth S, Stern "reported": "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole
his father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday
in a Bellingham, Washington, jail.."

SEE HOW DISHONEST YOU ARE YOU FAT DISGUSTING PIG!?

The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the point is McVay lied
about being arrested as a car thief!!

>Sara

<END>

John Morris now attempts to save your bacon again and fails quite miserably:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:19:04 GMT, <j3kl30hq69c2jrc9t...@4ax.com>
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

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>In <i5dl30ljtosdr8sfq...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 24 Feb 2004 02:26:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the point is
>> McVay lied about being arrested as a car thief!!
>
>You haven't shown us anything that McVay was arrested as a car thief.

Why did you delete what was posted? What else was McVay arrested or apprehended
for- jay walking?

"Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:

>It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own name.
>That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been arrested, let alone
>convicted, of any crime,

The American Jewish Committee

"Hate and the Internet
by Kenneth S. Stern

On-Line Approaches

Isn't being "Apprehended" the same thing as being "arrested"?

Which sense of "apprehended" applies to Ken McVay? ANSWER: "collar, nail,
apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody; ``the police
nabbed the suspected criminals'' )

>Are you going to? Are are just going to call people rude names?

<<Tavish comment February 24, 2004: As if your merry band of punks doesn't call
me rude names with each and every post they make! They have to makeup lies and
insults BUT McVay being a Jail Bird is totally true! LIVE WITH IT!!>>

So he's a Jail Bird and he was apprehended or arrested for car theft!! LIVE WITH
IT!!

<END>

John Morris once again tries to save your bacon and falls flat on his face!

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 05:27:54 GMT, <92ol305n1aaaneemu...@4ax.com>
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

>In <n4ml30lmc2bnuko4j...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on 24 Feb 2004 04:59:38 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F. Edeiken
><F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:19:04 GMT,
>> <j3kl30hq69c2jrc9t...@4ax.com> John Morris
>> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>
>> >In <i5dl30ljtosdr8sfq...@4ax.com> in
>> >alt.revisionism, on 24 Feb 2004 02:26:06 GMT, Dedicated to Yale F.
>> >Edeiken <F...@NO-REPLIES-PLEASE.NET> wrote:
>
>> >> The point is not whether Stern is a reporter or not- the point
>> >> is McVay lied about being arrested as a car thief!!
>
>> >You haven't shown us anything that McVay was arrested as a car
>> >thief.
>
>> Why did you delete what was posted? What else was McVay arrested or
>> apprehended for- jay walking?
>
>According to article you posted, he was fifteen years old and ran
>away from home.

And he stole a car!!

>Do you think that might be a possibility?

Youths don't get arrested and sent to jail for running away from home BUT they
do get arrested and go to jail for car theft which is why your hero was arrested
and went to jail! LIVE WITH IT!

What you keep wanting to avoid:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:19:04 GMT, <j3kl30hq69c2jrc9t...@4ax.com>
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

Why did you delete what was posted? What else was McVay arrested or apprehended
for- jay walking?

"Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:

>It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own name.
>That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been arrested, let alone
>convicted, of any crime,

The American Jewish Committee

"Hate and the Internet
by Kenneth S. Stern

On-Line Approaches

[...]

<END>

There are no IFS, ANDS, or BUTS-- Ken McVay went to jail for car theft which is
no misdemeanor offense and he very likely has a police record too seeing how
people arrested for car theft are arrested, booked/finger printed and jailed.

One has to wonder now if Ken McVay lied on his application to the Marine Corps
seeing how they reportedly won't accept felons with records!!
http://www.usmc.mil/ and http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/

Here is Ken McVay's money launderer trying to save McVay's bacon (and a few of
their other lies and smears):

http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit2001/audit2001-03.html
(Archived locally as: audit2001-03)
League For Human Rights 0f B'nai Brith Canada
Patterns of Prejudice in Canada
SECTION 3: TECHNOLOGY — THE MECHANICS OF MASS HATE
ANTISEMITIC ACTIVITY ON THE INTERNET

Kenneth McVay, Director, The Nizkor Project

<<Tavish comment February 24, 2004: Take note of who the key note speaker is
above!!>>

The year 2001 witnessed a dramatic increase in the level of antisemitic activity
on the Internet (the “net”)...

The Nizkor Project (31), a Canadian initiative, has itself been the object of
constant harassment, including.. attacks upon the site’s reputation through
anonymous letters sent to firms like Amazon.com, <<Tavish comment 02/24/2004:
I didn't send anonymous letters BUT I did send e-mails with my real name and
real e-mail address to Amazon.com regarding McVay's shady funding practices!!>>
which has an affiliate program which provides Nizkor with a small income stream,
and attacks upon the author, who is Nizkor’s founder and Director. I have been
described variously as a “convicted car thief and child molestor,” <<Tavish
comment 02/24/2004: Your comments about photos of naked children on the net not
being porn earned you that reputation and I will include your views on naked
children on the net further down in this post.>> ..and a “criminal and pervert.”
These descriptions are often employed by an Edmonton man with a long history of
posting antisemitic articles to worldwide newsgroups.

Similar material, along with unfounded charges of criminal behavior, have been
published by a Texas neo-nazi activist who uses the alias “Doc Tavish”.

<<Tavish comment 02/24/2004: And I have proved your libel to be a lie too! Your
puppet has engaged in criminal activity and as for me being a neo-nazi is that
what your Jews are calling Republicans up in Canada now!? The Jews in our
American Congress at good at hurling those types of insults!!>>

In the most publicized example, American anti-racist Sara Salzman of Aurora,
Colorado, has been subjected to a vicious series of threats and libels...

Salzman, a volunteer for the Canadian-based Nizkor Project, an online resource
devoted to confronting and refuting the overt racism of Holocaust denial, has
been threatened countless times. These threats have included violence, including
sexual assault, torture, the use of her skin for lampshades...

<<Tavish comment 02/24/2004: Sara Salzman has yet to substantiate those lies as
actually happening and in all likelihood she got carried away with her own S&M
Torture Bondage imaginings and she projected such on to me who she accused of
saying such in a civil lawsuit against me which her mentor Yale F.Edeiken lost
against me! I will provide a link further down which documented all of Sara's
kinky sex bondage further down in this archive under the title of:
"Sara "The Fist" Salzman - A Compilation of Her Better Known Literary Works and
Opinions.">>

Ken McVay and his shady dealings documented beyond any fault:

----NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay's Numerous Lies Regarding His Funding----
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=g89720p41v7g4qtt1qbrd96bpv5joj9kao%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Director is Lying About Funds He Has NOT Reported to
CCRA!! SAAF Report for 2002 Is Further Proof! V2.0 S_0206
Message-ID: <g89720p41v7g4qtt1...@4ax.com>
Date: 6 Feb 2004 14:57:46 GMT
AKA "Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He
Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rhao2v4fbuij94mcmi6sicj73sa4eifsns%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Nizkor LHR Fund; Just Another Self Serving FUND Like the Nizkor
Endowment and Trust Funds?
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:56:49 -0600
Message-ID: <rhao2v4fbuij94mcm...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e060868_1%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
Message-ID: <3e060...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=2q9j20dkcgt28fup6...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: ZHID GROUP $60 MILLION TAX FRAUD (& McVAY/NIZKOR & BB ISSUING BOGUS TAX
RECEIPTS!!) V1.0 S_0210
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:53:49 -0600
Message-ID: <2q9j20dkcgt28fup6...@4ax.com>
aka HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD (And Other Issuing of Bogus Tax
Receipts by Nizkor/B'nai Brith)
aka NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam

B'nai Brith also funded communist David Lethbridge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=4186tvsr4d3oiodp2nibbuvuj91rakvimb%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED! B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge
Against Capitalism, and Christianity V2.0 R_1207
Message-ID: <4186tvsr4d3oiodp2...@4ax.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2003 12:48:39 GMT

=============================PLUS====================================
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=p0afnvchj52pcuh6c0dk78f9bs7ngfetac%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0928
Message-ID: <p0afnvchj52pcuh6c...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Sep 2003 03:38:54 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=67qc8v8192tumoaivq4joitsquts3t5bs8%404ax.com&rnum=7
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V2.0
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:12 GMT
Message-ID: <67qc8v8192tumoaiv...@4ax.com>

--Nizkor.Org Director, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
(Archived locally as: pedo_McVay)
Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
(Archived locally as: John_Confirms)
(For the record this child porn apologist is funded by B'nai Brith
as shown here: http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
B'nai Brith must condone pictures of "naked children" too!)

The Nizkor Project aka Ken McVay
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada

Does anything else need to be said other than the only way for Ken McVay to view
those pictures of naked children on the NET is for him to have downloaded them!
THAT IS FACT!!
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Sara Salzman's tortured imaginings documented here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=s70dcvgs3eucqd31n81gqo5e21uj7vvg67%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Sara "The Fist" Salzman - A Compilation of Her Better Known Literary
Works and Opinions
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:35:49 -0500
Message-ID: <s70dcvgs3eucqd31n...@4ax.com>

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Ken McVay's fellow miscreant Yale F. Edeiken:

--Criminal Yale F. Edeiken's deplorable record:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdcd.php?id=40290
(Link active October 29, 2003. Archived locally as: shyster_censured)

Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^
Pennsylvania Supreme Court Attorney Inquiry
Attorney ID Case County District
40290 122 DB 95 Lehigh II Public Censure Administered 10/20/98
^^^^^^^^^
<STOP>

A PDF file is available which gives a report on the above
122 DB 95 against Shyster Yale Fatso Edeiken:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attopinion.php?case=122DB95
^^^^^^^
http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPosting/disciplinaryboard/dboardopinions/122DB95.RPT.pdf
(Link active October 28, 2003. Archived locally as: "Edeiken_Gets_His" and
122DB95.RPT)

The Disciplinary Board was content to give Yale F. Edeiken a "private reprimand"
but he continued to act like the psychotic nut case he is and defied them and
refused to appear at his hearing more than once! He was then "forced" to appear
and the "private reprimand" had escalated to "PUBLIC CENSURE" by the highest
court of that bastard's state! Furthermore the Disciplinary Board closed with:
"It is further ORDERED that respondent [Yale F. Edeiken] shall pay costs to the
Disciplinary Board pursuant to Rule 208(g), PaR.D.E." IOW Yale had to pay the
Disciplinary Board to "kick his shyster ass" AFTER the Disciplinary Board of the
Supreme Court of the State of Pennsylvania had to serve numerous notices upon
him and compel him to attend his disciplinary hearing!! Yale also had to pay for
all costs of the investigation too! It's all detailed in that PDF file!! GO
LOOK!!

BTW Yale F. Edeiken had already received one "Private Reprimand" in 1993 and
Yale had received an "Informal Admonition" in 1995! Then the bastard got "PUBLIC
CENSURE" in 1998!!! Looks like Yale F. Edeiken is real shining example of the
legal profession doesn't it? Why that shyster still has his law license is a
mystery to me! His assaulting a Deputy Sheriff should have done him in- in 1990!

I.E.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=s2hq10drpp50ik59v9litpvrdjr1203099%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Edeikook Follies #6 Yale F. Edeiken Goes on a Rampage at His County
Courthouse V2.1 S_0102
Message-ID: <s2hq10drpp50ik59v...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Feb 2004 19:02:18 GMT

Yale is also a perjurer who also makes criminal death threats using subpoenaed
information:

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=0neq10177ekocu899...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Sara Salzman Won't Comment on These Forgeries - I Wonder Why!.. V2.0
Message-ID: <0neq10177ekocu899...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Feb 2004 18:21:27 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=gsk76vcng7f0cugmimalglbno6bmgmslhk%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken Admits Sending Death Threats Over The Internet is a
Federal Crime (Which He Has Done!)
Message-ID: <gsk76vcng7f0cugmi...@4ax.com>

Need I say more about these liars and miscreants?

Tavish

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