Hello, can someone please help me with my first qubes computer?

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Malin Fylking

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Aug 17, 2017, 7:13:14 PM8/17/17
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Intel Core i7-5600U Processor (2.60GHz),
20.0GB RAM, 256GB SSD,
Windows 7 Professional
14.0in 1920x1080 Multitouch,
Intel HD Graphics 5500,
720p HD Camera,
Media Card Reader,
UltraNav (), Ethernet,
Intel Wireless 7265AC(2x2)+BT4.0 M.2 Combo,
Bluetooth 4.0,
3 Cell Li-Polymer
Model ID: 20bx001cus

Will this run Qubes OS and be "safe"?

Drew White

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Aug 17, 2017, 8:21:59 PM8/17/17
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Yes it will run it, and quite well.

How "safe" do you want to be?
What "safe" are you referring to?
- Crashing?
- Locking?
- Malware?
- Hackers?

Malin Fylking

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Aug 17, 2017, 10:07:08 PM8/17/17
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Was thinking about bugs / crashes because of the hardware.
Do you think it's a good computer for Qubes OS?

Drew White

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Aug 18, 2017, 12:54:22 AM8/18/17
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On Friday, 18 August 2017 12:07:08 UTC+10, Malin Fylking wrote:
> Was thinking about bugs / crashes because of the hardware.
> Do you think it's a good computer for Qubes OS?

It's functional.

As per all PC's, you will have crashes every now and again because they use SystemD instead of SysV.

Which is why I have been trying to get a Slackware version working properly, but still tough to convert everything to get it installed and working.

If you remember to kill off the QubesVM Manager every now and again, as well as pause your guests (Fedora based) when you are going AFK overnight or for a while, then that will lessen the amount of crashes you will have.

I use an HP 4650b with Qubes, and that functions fine with 8 GB RAM and a Quad Core i7.

Since it had Win7 on it, you can install Win7 into a Guest, then register using your key. So that is one good thing.

I run Qubes on a lot of older hardware as well as some not so old hardware.

My PC that I run it on has 24 GB RAM and a hyperthreaded Hex Core Xeon.

And I have this thing loaded to bare. I run 15+ Guests most of the time.
That includes 1 NetVM and 2 ProxyVMs.

My PC only locks every now and again when I have something that is built into Qubes go haywire.

Don't run FF under Fedora and leave it for the weekend. That will lock things up if you have too many things open.
Close the Qubes Manager When you are going away overnight even. My Qubes Manager, when I boot starts about 1 GB RAM. After a day, it's used 75% of the Dom0 RAM. When it hits 80% or more, it generally locks the PC and I have to force a restart by powering off, not shutting down cleanly.

So if you base your Laptop off the PC that I use and how hard I run it, you can get an idea of what you could do with your Laptop and the stability.


My 4thread laptop with 8 GB RAM. I can typically run 4-5 guests without hastle.
XEN is very good at management that way. NetVM and ProxyVM running with only 512MB RAM, 1 thread max. so that leaves 7GB for everything Else. I have my Dom0 set to 2 GB RAM. So that leaves 5 for Guests.
I customised my Laptop version for maximum efficiency since it's not the workhorse my Desktop is. It's just a portable version for general work.

My Desktop runs with 5 monitors at times. Generally I just run 2-3 depending on what I am doing and how much I am working on. I have it set for 7 virtual desktops.

I have my own person self-built Qubes Suite working and doing most of the things I need it to do.
Typically I have about 80 windows open at any one time on a slow day.

Hope that this information is useful for you.

Malin Fylking

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Aug 18, 2017, 1:42:15 AM8/18/17
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Okay, thanks for the help.
Sounds like this computer will be a good first Qubes OS computer for me to learn on then.
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