Whonix 14 upgraded - only a couple of mis-steps

[Dave]

Success! but not without a few snags...

Using Qube-Manager to remove templateVM resulted in:
[Dom0] Error removing Qube! ERROR: Domain is in use: details in system log

ran QVM-LS; verified Qube state halted

found reference: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3193
and followed instructions:

I wasn't aware of the Default-Disposable-VM setting on the Advanced tab in Qube Mangager GUI

The required commands are:
qvm-prefs --set whonix-ws-dvm netvm ""
qvm-prefs --set whonix-ws-dvm default_dispvm ""
qvm-remove whonix-ws-dvm
qvm-remove sys-whonix

Took these actions:
changed netVM's to "" in appVMs using sys-whonix
changed templateVM in appVMs using whonix-** to other
changed global-property-updatevm to another netVM

Again attempted: sudo qvm-remove whonix-ws

Now new err msg returned: ERROR: VM installed by package manager: whonix-ws
but the correct command was: $ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-whonix-**

REINSTALLATION ran much smoother using
"The recommended approach is to use salt (wrapped by the command qubesctl in Qubes), as this one call automatically:"
i/a/w https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

That ran without a hitch. Then UPDATE the new templates.

sudo apt-get update (Whonix is Debian based, so dnf doesn't work)

Now to push on and upgrade Fedora 26 to 28 (starting to get this too, Wolf moon)

[Dave]

quick question...

Are appVMs managed with QVM, and templateVMs managed with DNF packages?

[awokd]

Dave:

> quick question...
> Are appVMs managed with QVM,

Yes, try typing qvm-[TAB] in dom0 for a list of commands, or you can use
the Qube Menu/System Tools/Qube Manager.

> and templateVMs managed with DNF packages?

No, you'd normally use the qvm commands/gui to manage these as well. DNF
packages come into play if you want to customize or update a Fedora
template (and APT for Debian, etc.).

[Patrick Schleizer]

Dave:

Could you please check if Qubes-Whonix wiki documentation is complete
and consider to contribute anything missing?

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes