Trying to Install on a very new system (ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI)

[qubes-use...@anywerx.com]

Hello,

Very excited to try Qubes on a shiny new system.  It looks like exactly
what I have wanted for quite some time--a way to run most everything in
its own VM.  I have done this in an incomplete and somewhat naive
fashion using VMware Workstation (on Ubuntu) for a number of years, but
it is inefficient both in terms of resources and how difficult it is to
administer.  Qubes looks perfect for me.

Unfortunately, the install is hanging, and I would like some pointers on
how to proceed.  I am aware my system is not on the HCL, but it is a
well regarded (if recent) motherboard.  I am willing to invest some time
to figure things out and maybe get it on the HCL.  While I'm fairly
computer savvy, I haven't spent any time with Xen before.

I have tried both Qubes 4.0.4 and 4.1rc1.  Failure mode is the same in
both cases.

What happens is that I get a whole bunch of information scrolling past
me (I don't know how to capture this).  The messages go by really
fast--I don't seem to see any errors--then I get a memory map followed
by a message that Dom0 has all of the processors available, and there is
a pause.  I believe at this point the system attempts to switch from
text mode to graphics mode.  What happens is that the screen goes blank
and stays that way.

Given my guess that this is somehow related to the switch from text mode
to graphical mode, it may be significant to note that I happen to have
two NVIDIA RTX GPU's on the system; the first one in the PCI chain is a
3070, and other is a 3090.  I have enabled IOMMU in the BIOS as I am
planning to run GPU passthru under some form of Linux--hopefully Qubes.

I have verified that the installation media is good by using it on a
different machine where I do get to the graphical installer.

Thank you for an assistance you can provide.

--QUC

[Mike Keehan]

Hi,

Nvidia graphics are notoriously difficult cards. I suggest you try an
AMD if possible.

Nvidia passthrough? Again, not easy, and some cards are actively
prevented by Nvidia from passthrough.

The IOMMU is required by Qubes, irrespective of any passthrough you
may want.

Best of luck,

Mike.

[qubes-use...@anywerx.com]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the note.  Not feasible to move to AMD.  The 3090 is factory
supported for passthrough.  In fact, there's even a hack to make it
virtualizable under KVM--unfortunately this hack does not appear to be
portable to Xen.

I need some pointers on what to look for or look at.  I'm happy to do
some legwork, but I'm not sure where to start.  I'm hoping the community
will help me.  Otherwise Qubes is DOA on this system, and I'm going to
have to give up on Qubes and look at a different solution (I think
someone has cobbled up a Qubes-like config using KVM--maybe I'll give
that a try).

Thanks,

--Ben

[awokd]

qubes-use...@anywerx.com:

> I need some pointers on what to look for or look at.  I'm happy to do
> some legwork, but I'm not sure where to start.  I'm hoping the community
> will help me.  Otherwise Qubes is DOA on this system, and I'm going to
> have to give up on Qubes and look at a different solution (I think
> someone has cobbled up a Qubes-like config using KVM--maybe I'll give
> that a try).

Have you seen this?
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/installation-troubleshooting/#not-asking-for-vnc-because-we-dont-have-a-network--x-startup-failed-aborting-installation--pane-is-dead-error-during-installation

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[qubes-use...@anywerx.com]

@awokd:  I didn't see those troubleshooting resources...  sorry for
troubling the group before using them

I'll spend some time with those resources and either come back to the
group with a report of success or with some more specific questions.

Thank you so much for your help!