Someone should port this RDP Windows windower thing for Qubes

[Guerlan]

This project:

https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps/

does what Qubes do to Linux and Windows 7, but to Windows 10 on KVM, by using RDP. Not the best approach but no one is working on the Windows 10 port of the windowing thing. Maybe some people could work on porting this to Qubes, and maybe some prople from Qubes could direct funds to this.

I even opened an issue about this:

https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps/issues/112

I miss using Windows properly when I work on Qubes.

Would be nice if people from here could make some noise there to bring attention :)

[Alex Smirnoff]

It would be an ideal solution for me. And should not be very hard. What rdp client are they based on?

[Stumpy]

On 12/1/20 8:47 AM, Alex Smirnoff wrote:
> It would be an ideal solution for me. And should not be very hard. What
> rdp client are they based on?
>
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 1:57:50 AM UTC+2 Guerlan wrote:
>
>
> This project:
> https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps/

> <https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps/issues/112>

> does what Qubes do to Linux and Windows 7, but to Windows 10 on KVM,
> by using RDP. Not the best approach but no one is working on the
> Windows 10 port of the windowing thing. Maybe some people could work
> on porting this to Qubes, and maybe some prople from Qubes could
> direct funds to this.
> I even opened an issue about this:
> https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps/issues/112
> <https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps/issues/112>
> I miss using Windows properly when I work on Qubes.
> Would be nice if people from here could make some noise there to
> bring attention :)
>

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Indeed does look quite intereseting, currently I run a separate machine
and have an appvm where I rdp to my remote win10 setup... but this would
be much less wonky than what I have

[evado...@gmail.com]

very interesting, but if it will be user then need to solve the say WinVM-to-AppVM file transfers.

And not sure about clipboard.

вторник, 1 декабря 2020 г. в 13:52:03 UTC, Stumpy:

[Alex Smirnoff]

From what I remember RDP can handle both.

[Alex Smirnoff]

Damn it, this group auto moderation kills messages with imgur hyperlinks on spot, however..
I gave it a try and it is even worse. Artifacts of the same origin appear on MS Office windows with freerdp just like with seamless mode. Apparently it uses some DirectX calls that translate to X11 methods that are extremely unfriendly to sensible desktop environment with virtual desktops, sloppy focus and custom window decorations.

[Alex Smirnoff]

Apparently, it is not going to work, too :(

https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP/issues/6640

Chances we get seamless windows apps anytime soon are slim.

[evado...@gmail.com]

:-( thanks for your research anyway

[qubesth...@gmail.com]

Some Reddit users are claiming RDP is working perfectly for them in Qubes: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Qubes/comments/l1myt8/how_good_is_windows_vm_performance/gk1e15i?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3