hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install

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russly...@gmail.com

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Jan 6, 2018, 12:42:00 PM1/6/18
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hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install Qubes 4.0 we must have 32GB? thanks

awokd

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Jan 6, 2018, 1:25:38 PM1/6/18
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On Sat, January 6, 2018 5:42 pm, russly...@gmail.com wrote:
> hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum
> on flash drive to install Qubes 4.0 we must have 32GB? thanks

4.0rc2 worked fine for me installing from a physical DVD. Haven't tried
rc3, but it looks like it should also fit.

Tom Zander

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Jan 6, 2018, 1:44:20 PM1/6/18
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On Saturday, 6 January 2018 17:42:00 GMT russly...@gmail.com wrote:
> hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum
> on flash drive to install Qubes 4.0 we must have 32GB? thanks

Not sure if this is helpful; the minimum size harddrive I've installed Qubes
on was 21GiB.
But you have to skip the debian and the whonix templates and I turned off
swap.

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Jan 6, 2018, 2:14:08 PM1/6/18
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On Sat, January 6, 2018 6:44 pm, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote:
> On Saturday, 6 January 2018 17:42:00 GMT russly...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the
>> minimum on flash drive to install Qubes 4.0 we must have 32GB? thanks
>
> Not sure if this is helpful; the minimum size harddrive I've installed
> Qubes
> on was 21GiB. But you have to skip the debian and the whonix templates and
> I turned off
> swap.

Oh, I see. No, you can't install Qubes directly to a DVD, but you can burn
the ISO to one and use it to install somewhere else.

russly...@gmail.com

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Jan 6, 2018, 3:08:49 PM1/6/18
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1. Oh, my bad, I meant to burn ISO on DVD or/and Flash Drive, and then use PC to install on it...

2. I didn't find guide how to burn DVD Qubes ISO

3. As I understood it's possible to literally install Qubes on flash drive and run it from it?

thanks



awokd

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Jan 6, 2018, 9:28:37 PM1/6/18
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On Sat, January 6, 2018 8:08 pm, russly...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> 1. Oh, my bad, I meant to burn ISO on DVD or/and Flash Drive, and then
> use PC to install on it...
>
> 2. I didn't find guide how to burn DVD Qubes ISO

It's a normal ISO, just burn like you usually would. I think in Debian
Gnome for example, I right-clicked it and picked burn to DVD.

> 3. As I understood it's possible to literally install Qubes on flash
> drive and run it from it?

Yes, that works but you might want to make a full backup of your hard
drive first just in case. Once that's done, boot off the DVD and plug in
your USB drive before the installer starts. Make very sure you are
choosing to install to the USB drive.

russly...@gmail.com

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Jan 6, 2018, 10:02:01 PM1/6/18
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Nice. thanks. just want to confirm:

1. We are able also to install actual OS on one flash drive using another flash drive with ISO image on it (or also DVD ISO image)? True for Qubes 4.0 ?

2. In order to install OS on flash drive the minimum size should be 32GB on it?

3. Minimum size to burn Qubes 4.0 ISO on flash drive need to have 16GB on it?

awokd

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Jan 6, 2018, 10:39:34 PM1/6/18
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On Sun, January 7, 2018 3:02 am, russly...@gmail.com wrote:


> 1. We are able also to install actual OS on one flash drive using another
> flash drive with ISO image on it (or also DVD ISO image)? True for Qubes
> 4.0 ?
yes

> 2. In order to install OS on flash drive the minimum size should be 32GB
> on it?
yes

> 3. Minimum size to burn Qubes 4.0 ISO on flash drive need to have 16GB on
> it?
no, 8GB

russly...@gmail.com

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Jan 7, 2018, 6:50:24 PM1/7/18
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Hey, thanks.
Do you know a lot about Qubes?
Is it possible I can bother you here or somewhere else with few questions?
I'm new to Qubes, Whonix, and Tails.
I'm trying to make my PC - with high security and anonymity.

1. Do I need to install additional "internetz.me vpn in a special Proxy VM (the gui way )" on Qubes? Is it necessary? My question based on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYEmDZebow4

2. Can I and do I need to install Whonix OS inside Qubes OS for more security?

3. Can I run Tails on my flash drive using Qubes OS (also can I run Tails on Whonix OS within Qubes OS)?

awokd

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Jan 7, 2018, 7:07:25 PM1/7/18
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On Sun, January 7, 2018 11:50 pm, russly...@gmail.com wrote:


>
> Hey, thanks.
> Do you know a lot about Qubes?
I call myself a power user.

> Is it possible I can bother you here or somewhere else with few questions?
No bother, here is fine as long as it's related to Qubes. Please review
the documentation available at https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/ and try
searching this mailing list archive at
https://mail-archive.com/qubes...@googlegroups.com/ for answers to
basic questions, though.

> I'm new to Qubes, Whonix, and Tails.
Welcome!

> I'm trying to make my PC - with high security and anonymity.
>
>
> 1. Do I need to install additional "internetz.me vpn in a special Proxy
> VM (the gui way )" on Qubes? Is it necessary? My question based on this
> video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYEmDZebow4
You don't need to. If done wrong, VPNs can hurt security and anonymity.

> 2. Can I and do I need to install Whonix OS inside Qubes OS for more
> security?
Whonix routes through Tor which can provide anonymity. I'd recommend this
until you are comfortable with the pros and cons of VPNs and Tor. To
install Whonix in Qubes, just check the box on install and the one
underneath it for updates.

> 3. Can I run Tails on my flash drive using Qubes OS (also can I run Tails
> on Whonix OS within Qubes OS)?
In theory these are possible but running Qubes on a flash drive is mostly
just to try it out, it's going to be slow. Qubes will work best installed
to an internal drive.


russly...@gmail.com

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Jan 7, 2018, 7:54:40 PM1/7/18
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For #2 As I see Whonix OS within Qubes OS will not bring any additional benefits, more Cons than Pros? You would't recommend to install Whonix OS into Qubes OS? Don't we already have Whonix OS in Qubes OS? - I see in my Qubes right now "sys-whonix, whonix-gw, whonix-ws, anon-whonix which can run Tor Browser" ?

For #3 I'm not sure if I understood your answer, maybe I worded it wrong, I asked if I can run Tails on flash drive using Qubes OS installed on my PC? Is it possible? Will it bring additional layer or security and anonymity?

Thanks

awokd

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Jan 7, 2018, 8:36:37 PM1/7/18
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On Mon, January 8, 2018 12:54 am, russly...@gmail.com wrote:

> For #2 As I see Whonix OS within Qubes OS will not bring any additional
> benefits, more Cons than Pros? You would't recommend to install Whonix OS
> into Qubes OS? Don't we already have Whonix OS in Qubes OS? - I see in my
> Qubes right now "sys-whonix, whonix-gw, whonix-ws, anon-whonix which can
> run Tor Browser" ?

Yes, I recommended you use Whonix/Tor. You might also want to add a VPN
later, once you get a good understanding of the pros and cons.

>
> For #3 I'm not sure if I understood your answer, maybe I worded it wrong,
> I asked if I can run Tails on flash drive using Qubes OS installed on my
> PC? Is it possible? Will it bring additional layer or security and
> anonymity?

You can run Tails from inside Qubes (see
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/tails/) but again, there are trade-offs to
that so it's a judgement call. Personally, I'd say use Qubes for
everything and boot Tails separately off the USB drive when you want to
use Tails. You might also want to check out Heads.

russly...@gmail.com

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Jan 7, 2018, 9:25:16 PM1/7/18
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#2 Don't we already have Whonix OS in Qubes OS? - I see in my Qubes right now "sys-whonix, whonix-gw, whonix-ws, anon-whonix" is it Whonix OS or something else? Can ou elaborate a bit?

#3 I see. Thanks! I will read more about Heads.

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