Likely that installing a second hard drive in CDrom dray would *not* work?

[gaikokuji...@gmail.com]

I had problems with my cdrom drive, mainly that I could not get Qubes, or any other Linux, to see it. I didn't have much use for it before but now it is totally useless. Even before this I had considered replacing it with a hard drive caddy but now I am less sure since the cdrom wasn't recognized.

Is my reasoning correct or since I would be installing a regular hard drive and I think the interface is just SATA then its likely it should work? Thoughts? (not looking for "guarantees" just some feedback from those more Qubes savvy than myself).

Thanks!

[Andrew David Wong]

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Sorry, it's not clear to me what you're asking. Are you asking whether
a SATA HDD is more likely to be recognized by Qubes than a SATA CD-ROM
drive? I suppose that if the problem isn't actually with the SATA port
or the cable, and if the CD-ROM drive is also unrecognized by other
Linux systems, then probably yes.

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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[gaikokuji...@gmail.com]

Sorry, I guess my post was a bit ambiguous. I was hoping to get a hard drive caddy that fits in the cdrom bay (something like http://www.ebay.com/itm/2nd-Second-HDD-Hard-Drive-Caddy-For-HP-Elitebook-8460p-8470p-8560p-8570p-8760p-/301897376984?hash=item464a7c64d8:g:gHgAAOSwyQtV0U1V). I wasn't able to get the cdrom recognized but am not sure if it was the cdrom itself or the "bay" that was the issue, that is, if I put in the hard drive/hard drive cdrom bay adapter would it be more likely to work than the cdrom... though as I write this it seems like a hard question to answer without running some test? Perhaps (hopefully) I am wrong?

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-06-09 14:21, gaikokuji...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 3:29:54 PM UTC+10:30, Andrew David

> Wong wrote: On 2016-06-09 08:13, gaikokuji...@gmail.com

> wrote:
>>>> I had problems with my cdrom drive, mainly that I could not
>>>> get Qubes, or any other Linux, to see it. I didn't have much
>>>> use for it before but now it is totally useless. Even before
>>>> this I had considered replacing it with a hard drive caddy
>>>> but now I am less sure since the cdrom wasn't recognized.
>>>>
>>>> Is my reasoning correct or since I would be installing a
>>>> regular hard drive and I think the interface is just SATA
>>>> then its likely it should work? Thoughts? (not looking for
>>>> "guarantees" just some feedback from those more Qubes savvy
>>>> than myself).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>
> Sorry, it's not clear to me what you're asking. Are you asking
> whether a SATA HDD is more likely to be recognized by Qubes than a
> SATA CD-ROM drive? I suppose that if the problem isn't actually
> with the SATA port or the cable, and if the CD-ROM drive is also
> unrecognized by other Linux systems, then probably yes.
>
>

> Sorry, I guess my post was a bit ambiguous. I was hoping to get a

> hard drive caddy that fits in the cdrom bay (something like I

> wasn't able to get the cdrom recognized but am not sure if it was
> the cdrom itself or the "bay" that was the issue, that is, if I
> put in the hard drive/hard drive cdrom bay adapter would it be
> more likely to work than the cdrom... though as I write this it
> seems like a hard question to answer without running some test?
> Perhaps (hopefully) I am wrong?
>

I think you're probably right that it will be hard to answer this
without being able to test the hardware, but perhaps there are others
around here who know more about this than me.

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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[Zrubi]

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I was using such HDD caddy in my Dell E6430.

So if your device support this (means you have a HDD caddy and it fits
to the SATA connectors) this will just work. Your BIOS and Qubes will
see you 2nd HDD.

Using the 2nd HDD under Qubes is another question, you may find
discussions about that topic on the mailing lists.


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Zrubi
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[gaikokuji...@gmail.com]

Thanks for the response, I hadn't considered that Qubes using a 2nd hard drive might be an issue. I will look over the other discussions. Much appreciated!

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-06-10 11:53, gaikokuji...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 3:32:26 AM UTC-1, Laszlo Zrubecz wrote:
> On 06/09/2016 05:13 PM, gaikokuji...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I had problems with my cdrom drive, mainly that I could not
>>>> get Qubes, or any other Linux, to see it. I didn't have much
>>>> use for it before but now it is totally useless. Even before
>>>> this I had considered replacing it with a hard drive caddy
>>>> but now I am less sure since the cdrom wasn't recognized.
>>>>
>>>> Is my reasoning correct or since I would be installing a
>>>> regular hard drive and I think the interface is just SATA
>>>> then its likely it should work? Thoughts? (not looking for
>>>> "guarantees" just some feedback from those more Qubes savvy
>>>> than myself).
>>
>> I was using such HDD caddy in my Dell E6430.
>>
>> So if your device support this (means you have a HDD caddy and
>> it fits to the SATA connectors) this will just work. Your BIOS
>> and Qubes will see you 2nd HDD.
>>
>> Using the 2nd HDD under Qubes is another question, you may find
>> discussions about that topic on the mailing lists.
>>
>

> Thanks for the response, I hadn't considered that Qubes using a
> 2nd hard drive might be an issue. I will look over the other
> discussions. Much appreciated!
>

Along those lines, you may find this helpful:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/secondary-storage/

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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[gaikokuji...@gmail.com]

Thank you so much! I managed to find one of the threads that I think Laszlo was referring to and it was kinda heavy reading (totally informative, I now know that I have a few options). But between the readings and your straight forward link I think linking will probably work nicely for me. much appreciated as usual!

[gaikokuji...@gmail.com]

I found some of the threads that I think you were refering to, there seems to be at least a few options (your manual mounting, the linking, and use of bcache? [that was completely over my head]) will keep reading to make sure I am totally clear on the options though. Cheers.