problem: dhclient times out in sys-net
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Muharem Hrnjadovic
Nov 16, 2015, 5:36:18 AM11/16/15
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Hello there!
I am a qubes newbie and after installation struggle with the following problem: the sys-net vm cannot connect to the network neither through the ethernet nor the wlan device. On another laptop (running arch linux) I can connect through either the ethernet or the wlan sucessfully.
When I run 'systemctl restart NetworkManager.service' in the sys-net shell I see the following in the logs:
ov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Auto-activating connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) starting connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: config -> ip-config (reason 'none') [50 70 0]
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Beginning DHCPv4 transaction (timeout in 45 seconds)
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> dhclient started with pid 3493
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net dhclient[3493]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 (xid=0xbed8e16a)
Nov 16 10:37:38 sys-net dhclient[3493]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 (xid=0xbed8e16a)
Nov 16 10:37:50 sys-net dhclient[3493]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17 (xid=0xbed8e16a)
Nov 16 10:38:04 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:04 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:38:04 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:07 sys-net dhclient[3493]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 (xid=0xbed8e16a)
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 request timed out.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 3493
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> Activation (enp0s0) failed for connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Auto-activating connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) starting connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: config -> ip-config (reason 'none') [50 70 0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Beginning DHCPv4 transaction (timeout in 45 seconds)
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> dhclient started with pid 3497
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:38:24 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:38:32 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:38:46 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:38:49 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:49 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:38:49 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) complete.
ov 16 10:38:53 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 request timed out.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 3497
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> Activation (enp0s0) failed for connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Auto-activating connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) starting connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: config -> ip-config (reason 'none') [50 70 0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Beginning DHCPv4 transaction (timeout in 45 seconds)
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> dhclient started with pid 3503
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:07 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:18 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:27 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:34 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:34 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:39:34 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 16 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 request timed out.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 3503
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> Activation (enp0s0) failed for connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Auto-activating connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) starting connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: config -> ip-config (reason 'none') [50 70 0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Beginning DHCPv4 transaction (timeout in 45 seconds)
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> dhclient started with pid 3509
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net dhclient[3509]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 (xid=0xc89b7e7a)
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net qubes-gui[417]: XGetWindowAttributes for 0x120003d failed in handle_create, ret=0x0
Nov 16 10:39:52 sys-net dhclient[3509]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13 (xid=0xc89b7e7a)
Nov 16 10:40:05 sys-net dhclient[3509]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13 (xid=0xc89b7e7a)
Nov 16 10:40:18 sys-net dhclient[3509]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 16 (xid=0xc89b7e7a)
Nov 16 10:40:19 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:40:19 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:40:19 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 request timed out.
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 3509
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Disabling autoconnect for connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> Activation (enp0s0) failed for connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction
I am a qubes newbie and after installation struggle with the following problem: the sys-net vm cannot connect to the network neither through the ethernet nor the wlan device. On another laptop (running arch linux) I can connect through either the ethernet or the wlan sucessfully.
When I run 'systemctl restart NetworkManager.service' in the sys-net shell I see the following in the logs:
ov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Auto-activating connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) starting connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: config -> ip-config (reason 'none') [50 70 0]
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Beginning DHCPv4 transaction (timeout in 45 seconds)
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> dhclient started with pid 3493
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit
Nov 16 10:37:32 sys-net dhclient[3493]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 (xid=0xbed8e16a)
Nov 16 10:37:38 sys-net dhclient[3493]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 (xid=0xbed8e16a)
Nov 16 10:37:50 sys-net dhclient[3493]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17 (xid=0xbed8e16a)
Nov 16 10:38:04 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:04 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:38:04 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:07 sys-net dhclient[3493]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 (xid=0xbed8e16a)
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 request timed out.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 3493
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> Activation (enp0s0) failed for connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Auto-activating connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) starting connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: config -> ip-config (reason 'none') [50 70 0]
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Beginning DHCPv4 transaction (timeout in 45 seconds)
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> dhclient started with pid 3497
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit
Nov 16 10:38:17 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:38:24 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:38:32 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:38:46 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:38:49 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:38:49 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:38:49 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) complete.
ov 16 10:38:53 sys-net dhclient[3497]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 (xid=0x3e9a8833)
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 request timed out.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 3497
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> Activation (enp0s0) failed for connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Auto-activating connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) starting connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: config -> ip-config (reason 'none') [50 70 0]
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Beginning DHCPv4 transaction (timeout in 45 seconds)
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> dhclient started with pid 3503
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit
Nov 16 10:39:02 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:07 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:18 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:27 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:34 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:34 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:39:34 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net dhclient[3503]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 16 (xid=0xb910b17)
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 request timed out.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 3503
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> Activation (enp0s0) failed for connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Auto-activating connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) starting connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: config -> ip-config (reason 'none') [50 70 0]
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Beginning DHCPv4 transaction (timeout in 45 seconds)
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> dhclient started with pid 3509
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net dhclient[3509]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 (xid=0xc89b7e7a)
Nov 16 10:39:47 sys-net qubes-gui[417]: XGetWindowAttributes for 0x120003d failed in handle_create, ret=0x0
Nov 16 10:39:52 sys-net dhclient[3509]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13 (xid=0xc89b7e7a)
Nov 16 10:40:05 sys-net dhclient[3509]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13 (xid=0xc89b7e7a)
Nov 16 10:40:18 sys-net dhclient[3509]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 16 (xid=0xc89b7e7a)
Nov 16 10:40:19 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:40:19 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:40:19 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> (enp0s0): DHCPv4 request timed out.
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 3509
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Disabling autoconnect for connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <warn> Activation (enp0s0) failed for connection 'Wired connection 1'
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> Activation (enp0s0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete.
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Nov 16 10:40:32 sys-net NetworkManager[3283]: <info> (enp0s0): canceled DHCP transaction
muharem...@gmail.com
Nov 17, 2015, 2:52:15 PM11/17/15
to qubes-users
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 11:36:18 AM UTC+1, Muharem Hrnjadovic wrote:
> Hello there!
>
> I am a qubes newbie and after installation struggle
> with the following problem: the sys-net vm cannot connect to the network
> neither through the ethernet nor the wlan device. On another laptop
> (running arch linux) I can connect through either the ethernet or the
> wlan sucessfully.
Hmmm .. if I just use the WLAN it works. sys-net vm connects and I can run a web browser in a disposable vm etc.> Hello there!
>
> I am a qubes newbie and after installation struggle
> with the following problem: the sys-net vm cannot connect to the network
> neither through the ethernet nor the wlan device. On another laptop
> (running arch linux) I can connect through either the ethernet or the
> wlan sucessfully.
Plugging in the ethernet cable does not work however i.e. the enp0s0 device does not get an IP assigned and the NetworkManager icon in the sys tray spins forever.
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Nov 17, 2015, 4:19:57 PM11/17/15
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Do you have any kernel errors about that device? Check not only at the
connection time, but at sys-net startup time.
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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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connection time, but at sys-net startup time.
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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Muharem Hrnjadovic
Nov 18, 2015, 2:09:09 PM11/18/15
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Where do I look for these? I checked /var/log/boot.log and could not see any errors. Nothing in journalctl either.
This is a weird problem. Today I came home and booted up the qubes laptop and neither the ethernet nor
the WLAN devices work.
Could this be some kind of firewall issue?
This is a weird problem. Today I came home and booted up the qubes laptop and neither the ethernet nor
the WLAN devices work.
Could this be some kind of firewall issue?
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Nov 18, 2015, 7:16:41 PM11/18/15
to Muharem Hrnjadovic, qubes-users, muharem...@gmail.com
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On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:09:08AM -0800, Muharem Hrnjadovic wrote:
> Where do I look for these? I checked /var/log/boot.log and could not see
> any errors. Nothing in journalctl either.
You can also check `dmesg`, but theoretically it is already covered by
> Where do I look for these? I checked /var/log/boot.log and could not see
> any errors. Nothing in journalctl either.
`journalctl`.
> This is a weird problem. Today I came home and booted up the qubes laptop
> and neither the ethernet nor
> the WLAN devices work.
>
> Could this be some kind of firewall issue?
You can also try to call dhclient manually in sys-net. And also look at
tcpdump output to check if actually any packets are sent (and received).
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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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