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haaber

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Dec 12, 2017, 3:14:17 PM12/12/17
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Hello,
I cloned the out-of-the-box debian-8 and brought it to debian-9 with
apt-get distupgrade. I halted it. After reboot no way to get a shell, or
anything else (not by qvm-run within dom0 either). Is there a way to get
error messages somewhere? Thank you, Bernhard

Westley Argentum Hennigh-Palermo

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Dec 13, 2017, 11:02:16 AM12/13/17
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Hey, I'd also be interested to know more about getting detailed debugging info, maybe someone can comment on that... but things I do know that might be helpful:

- You can get a debian 9 template by running: `sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-debian-9` (see docs here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/)

- There are some vm logs available at `/var/log/qubes/<vm name>`

Chris Laprise

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Dec 13, 2017, 2:00:52 PM12/13/17
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There is issue #2913 about very long boot delay for debian-9. This means
you have to wait about 2min. before starting programs. A fix is in the
works, and a workaround is deleting an @service link like so:

sudo rm /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant@.service

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awokd

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Dec 13, 2017, 7:05:35 PM12/13/17
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On Wed, December 13, 2017 7:00 pm, Chris Laprise wrote:
>
> There is issue #2913 about very long boot delay for debian-9. This means
> you have to wait about 2min. before starting programs. A fix is in the
> works, and a workaround is deleting an @service link like so:
>
> sudo rm
> /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant@.service

Thanks for the heads up on this, your email showed up right around the
same time I ran into the issue and resolved it right away.

haaber

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Dec 14, 2017, 1:51:27 AM12/14/17
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Thank you both for comments. That must be a *very* slow boot, it is up
for 12h now, and still no xterm available, neither via qubes-menu, nor
via qvm-run in dom0 :)) Anyhow, it seems better to download the template.

How to you get the template name? I could not find any helpful doc on
it, so I tried guessing the names by browsing deb.qubes-os.org for the
debian branch or yum.qubes-os.org, but this did not help either.

I ask because I'd like to get a fedora-x-minimal or a debian-9-minimal
as strating point for sys-net or sys-usb with minimized attack surface.
Bernhard

Johannes Graumann

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Dec 14, 2017, 3:56:17 AM12/14/17
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Unman

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Dec 14, 2017, 12:45:17 PM12/14/17
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Or in dom0 run:
sudo qubes-dom-update --action="list available qubes*"

or even more particularly:
sudo qubes-dom-update --action="list available qubes-template*"


Using --action allows you to pass in other dnf commands, rather than
just using for update/install.

You'll see there are a number of Fedora minimal templates, but no
Debian.
The absence of a Debian-minimal is a long standing issue, and you will
have to roll your own for now.

unman

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