Debian 9 and Fedora 24 Should I be upgrading to these?
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fooyreb
May 21, 2017, 8:40:02 PM5/21/17
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Debian 9 and Fedora 24 Should I be upgrading to these?
is it recommended that people do this? Or is there some other
dist-upgrade that is supposed to happen at some point ?
is it recommended that people do this? Or is there some other
dist-upgrade that is supposed to happen at some point ?
Andrew David Wong
May 21, 2017, 11:11:49 PM5/21/17
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We strongly recommend that you upgrade from EOL versions in
TemplateVMs. (This is not necessary in dom0.)
Fedora 23 is EOL. Therefore, we recommend upgrading to Fedora 24.
Debian 8 is not EOL. It is up to you whether you use Debian 8 or 9.
Use whichever you prefer.
You can read more about this here:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/
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TemplateVMs. (This is not necessary in dom0.)
Fedora 23 is EOL. Therefore, we recommend upgrading to Fedora 24.
Debian 8 is not EOL. It is up to you whether you use Debian 8 or 9.
Use whichever you prefer.
You can read more about this here:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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fooyreb
May 22, 2017, 12:47:34 AM5/22/17
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Andrew David Wong:
thx for the reply
1) I'm sorry, I don't see what you mean by "not necessary in dom0"
2)
OK I went thru the steps:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
without any issues except now sys-whonix and my CLI VPN Proxy-VM
are complaining during startup :
"error starting VM: invalid argument network device with mac 00:16.etc
already exists
However, the VMs otherwise seem to be working and started normally ......
> We strongly recommend that you upgrade from EOL versions in
> TemplateVMs. (This is not necessary in dom0.)
>
> Fedora 23 is EOL. Therefore, we recommend upgrading to Fedora 24.
Andrew,
> TemplateVMs. (This is not necessary in dom0.)
>
> Fedora 23 is EOL. Therefore, we recommend upgrading to Fedora 24.
thx for the reply
1) I'm sorry, I don't see what you mean by "not necessary in dom0"
2)
OK I went thru the steps:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
without any issues except now sys-whonix and my CLI VPN Proxy-VM
are complaining during startup :
"error starting VM: invalid argument network device with mac 00:16.etc
already exists
However, the VMs otherwise seem to be working and started normally ......
Andrew David Wong
May 22, 2017, 1:16:31 AM5/22/17
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On 2017-05-21 23:47, fooyreb wrote:
> Andrew David Wong:
>> We strongly recommend that you upgrade from EOL versions in
>> TemplateVMs. (This is not necessary in dom0.)
>>
>> Fedora 23 is EOL. Therefore, we recommend upgrading to Fedora
>> 24.
>
> Andrew, thx for the reply
>
> 1) I'm sorry, I don't see what you mean by "not necessary in
> dom0"
>
Please read the page I linked. It is explained there.
> Andrew David Wong:
>> We strongly recommend that you upgrade from EOL versions in
>> TemplateVMs. (This is not necessary in dom0.)
>>
>> Fedora 23 is EOL. Therefore, we recommend upgrading to Fedora
>> 24.
>
> Andrew, thx for the reply
>
> 1) I'm sorry, I don't see what you mean by "not necessary in
> dom0"
>
> 2) OK I went thru the steps:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
>
> without any issues except now sys-whonix and my CLI VPN
> Proxy-VM are complaining during startup : "error starting VM:
> invalid argument network device with mac 00:16.etc already exists
>
> However, the VMs otherwise seem to be working and started
> normally ......
>
other VM as its NetVM and is trying to start that VM. But it may not
be able to start because the devices is already assigned to another VM
that's running. Check your devices tab in the VM settings for those
VMs. You may have the wrong devices assigned.
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Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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fooyreb
May 22, 2017, 8:44:55 PM5/22/17
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Andrew David Wong:
well the mac complaint just auto disappeared, however now in a terminal
in fedora 24 template , I am getting references to fedora 23 , is this
correct ?
Or do I need to do whatever the version for fedora is of apt-get update
or dist-upgrade?
[user@fedora-24 ~]$ sudo dnf install chromium
Qubes OS Repository for VM (updates) 171 kB/s | 473 kB
00:02
Fedora 23 - x86_64 2.6 MB/s | 43 MB
00:16
Fedora 23 - x86_64 - Updates 3.1 MB/s | 25 MB
00:08
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:08 ago on Mon May 22 14:40:27 2017.
Dependencies resolved.
================================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
================================================================================
Installing:
chromium x86_64 54.0.2840.90-3.fc23 updates
31 M
chromium-libs x86_64 54.0.2840.90-3.fc23 updates
41 M
chromium-libs-media x86_64 54.0.2840.90-3.fc23 updates
1.4 M
libXScrnSaver x86_64 1.2.2-9.fc23 fedora
28 k
u2f-hidraw-policy x86_64 1.0.2-1.fc23 updates
22 k
--------
I said "no" for now, not wanting to break anything .... I do still have
the old Fedora 23 template VM, just in case, but I'm doubting that
matters ??
cc: qubes-group, ADW
> On 2017-05-21 23:47, fooyreb wrote:
>> Andrew David Wong:
>>> We strongly recommend that you upgrade from EOL versions in
>>> TemplateVMs. (This is not necessary in dom0.)
>>>
>>> Fedora 23 is EOL. Therefore, we recommend upgrading to Fedora
>>> 24.
>
>> Andrew, thx for the reply
>
>> 1) I'm sorry, I don't see what you mean by "not necessary in
>> dom0"
>
>
> Please read the page I linked. It is explained there.
>
>> 2) OK I went thru the steps:
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
>
>> without any issues except now sys-whonix and my CLI VPN
>> Proxy-VM are complaining during startup : "error starting VM:
>> invalid argument network device with mac 00:16.etc already exists
>
>> However, the VMs otherwise seem to be working and started
>> normally ......
>
>
> Check the NetVM of each VM. It may be that some VM is trying has some
> other VM as its NetVM and is trying to start that VM. But it may not
> be able to start because the devices is already assigned to another VM
> that's running. Check your devices tab in the VM settings for those
> VMs. You may have the wrong devices assigned.
>
--------
>> Andrew David Wong:
>>> We strongly recommend that you upgrade from EOL versions in
>>> TemplateVMs. (This is not necessary in dom0.)
>>>
>>> Fedora 23 is EOL. Therefore, we recommend upgrading to Fedora
>>> 24.
>
>> Andrew, thx for the reply
>
>> 1) I'm sorry, I don't see what you mean by "not necessary in
>> dom0"
>
>
> Please read the page I linked. It is explained there.
>
>> 2) OK I went thru the steps:
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
>
>> without any issues except now sys-whonix and my CLI VPN
>> Proxy-VM are complaining during startup : "error starting VM:
>> invalid argument network device with mac 00:16.etc already exists
>
>> However, the VMs otherwise seem to be working and started
>> normally ......
>
>
> Check the NetVM of each VM. It may be that some VM is trying has some
> other VM as its NetVM and is trying to start that VM. But it may not
> be able to start because the devices is already assigned to another VM
> that's running. Check your devices tab in the VM settings for those
> VMs. You may have the wrong devices assigned.
>
well the mac complaint just auto disappeared, however now in a terminal
in fedora 24 template , I am getting references to fedora 23 , is this
correct ?
Or do I need to do whatever the version for fedora is of apt-get update
or dist-upgrade?
[user@fedora-24 ~]$ sudo dnf install chromium
Qubes OS Repository for VM (updates) 171 kB/s | 473 kB
00:02
Fedora 23 - x86_64 2.6 MB/s | 43 MB
00:16
Fedora 23 - x86_64 - Updates 3.1 MB/s | 25 MB
00:08
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:08 ago on Mon May 22 14:40:27 2017.
Dependencies resolved.
================================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
================================================================================
Installing:
chromium x86_64 54.0.2840.90-3.fc23 updates
31 M
chromium-libs x86_64 54.0.2840.90-3.fc23 updates
41 M
chromium-libs-media x86_64 54.0.2840.90-3.fc23 updates
1.4 M
libXScrnSaver x86_64 1.2.2-9.fc23 fedora
28 k
u2f-hidraw-policy x86_64 1.0.2-1.fc23 updates
22 k
--------
I said "no" for now, not wanting to break anything .... I do still have
the old Fedora 23 template VM, just in case, but I'm doubting that
matters ??
cc: qubes-group, ADW
Andrew David Wong
May 22, 2017, 11:56:27 PM5/22/17
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still Fedora 23).
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Andrew David Wong
May 23, 2017, 1:30:45 AM5/23/17
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On 2017-05-23 00:01, yreb-qusw wrote:
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> On 05/22/2017 05:56 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>> You might want to check that it's really a Fedora 24 template
>> (and not still Fedora 23).
>
> ....sorry Andrew, I'm no clue-by, you know, unless it's spelled out
>> You might want to check that it's really a Fedora 24 template
>> (and not still Fedora 23).
>
> in a tutorial , I usually am gonna have to ask
>
> re: how do I know which version the template is? how would I know
> ....
>
Try:
$ cat /etc/redhat-release
How did you upgrade the TemplateVM from Fedora 23 to Fedora 24? Did
you follow this guide?
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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Andrew David Wong
May 23, 2017, 9:42:26 AM5/23/17
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On 2017-05-23 01:00, yreb-qusw wrote:
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> On 05/22/2017 07:30 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>
>>>
>>> re: how do I know which version the template is? how would I know
>>> ....
>>>
>>
>> Try:
>>
>> $ cat /etc/redhat-release
>>
>> How did you upgrade the TemplateVM from Fedora 23 to Fedora 24? Did
>> you follow this guide?
>>
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
>>
>> - --
>
>>
> [user@fedora-24 ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release
>
>>>
>>> re: how do I know which version the template is? how would I know
>>> ....
>>>
>>
>> Try:
>>
>> $ cat /etc/redhat-release
>>
>> How did you upgrade the TemplateVM from Fedora 23 to Fedora 24? Did
>> you follow this guide?
>>
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
>>
>> - --
>
>>
> Fedora release 23 (Twenty Three)
>
> .....so, hmm, looks it's stuck on Fedora 23
>
> I used the "Detailed" section, I didn't use the "Summary" , everything
> completed without errors ... only thing I didn't do is the final del of
> the the F23 VM , nor changing the DVM default, because I don't use
> Fedora for that
>
> I don't understand, why they have a Summary and a Detailed, it isn't
> explained if one is supposed to choose between them or what .....etc
>
> for example, these lines
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-block -A fedora-24
> dom0:/var/tmp/template-upgrade-cache.img
> [user@fedora-24 ~]$ sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/xvdi
> [user@fedora-24 ~]$ sudo mount /dev/xvdi /mnt/removable
>
> are in the Summary but NOT in the Detailed ..... sigh
>
Yes they are. Read more carefully.
They're the same procedure. One is a summary. The other is detailed.
Please keep the list CCed.
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Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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yreb-lm
May 23, 2017, 2:12:53 PM5/23/17
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so I followed the "DETAILED" version to upgrade from F23-> F24 , even
changing all my AppVMs to use the new F24 only to discover, that the
Template didn't upgrade.
So:
I see no point in deleting the template and doing the same thing again,
as there were no errors in the process.
Can anyone else suggest how to proceed please ?? thx, M
changing all my AppVMs to use the new F24 only to discover, that the
Template didn't upgrade.
So:
I see no point in deleting the template and doing the same thing again,
as there were no errors in the process.
Can anyone else suggest how to proceed please ?? thx, M
yreb-qusw
May 24, 2017, 1:36:31 AM5/24/17
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addendum, I think this one is sorted, so marked *solved i guess :)
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