Qubes 3.2 HVMs not working - screen stays black ??

[Marek Jenkins]

Hi,

I have some issues with Qubes Hardware VMs. I can't get them to work, even though everything else works fine.

I tried the following ISOs / linux distributions:

- Fedora 26 LXDE
- Tails 3.2

Each time the HVM window opens but then the screen stays black and the boot starts to hang. I haven't been able to login to any HVM yet.

Do you have any idea how I can solve this issue ?

Any help is highly appreciated ;)

PS: I did everything exactly the same way as stated in the docs:

1. $ create-qvm tails --hvm --label red
2. $ start-qvm tails --cdrom=personal:/home/marek/Desktop/Tails.iso

Hardware:
- Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H
- OnBoard Graphics
- Intel i7-4770K
- 32GB RAM

[Desobediente]

Apart from the obligatory "that's not how you should use Tails", I can say that if I recall correctly, Tails used to have some sort of blocking or a warning when you attempt to run it in a virtual environment.

I have fedora 24 on qubes 3.2, I will attempt to reproduce this here.

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[Desobediente]

Tails 3.2 working for me in a standalone HVM.

It's very weird to have Tails as an AppVM with network routed through Whonix inside Qubes, though. Feels like I'm trying to find the ultimate question for 42 or something.

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[ausland...@googlemail.com]

Thanks for your efforts to help!

True, I thought about running Tails without Whonix Gateway, just with the Firewall.

How exactly do you create/setup the Tails HVM or any HVM for that matter ?
Did I miss something in my terminal commands ?

Maybe Fedora 26 LXDE doesn't work because of LXDE, which desktop version of Fedora 24 do you use exactly (KDE,LXDE,Xfce,etc) ?

Best regards!

[Marek Jenkins]

UPDATE:

I generally suspect it to be a graphics issue. Because the screen of the HVM stays black and in the top of the HVM window you can see a white cursor or something similar - but it never boots.

During Installation I had a Nvidia graphics card attached to the mainboard. But then I removed it because of Boot problems. Without the Nvidia card therer are no problems.

Could this hardware change have to do with the weird behaviour of HVMs ?

Thank you very much for advise.

Kind regards,
Marek

[Desobediente]

2017-11-01 9:20 GMT-02:00 auslandstarife via qubes-users <qubes...@googlegroups.com>:

How exactly do you create/setup the Tails HVM or any HVM for that matter ?
Did I miss something in my terminal commands ?

I typed exactly the aforementioned commands

On the dom0 xfce-terminal:

$ qvm-create tails --hvm --label red

$ qvm-start tails --cdrom=disp1:/home/user/Downloads/tails-amd64-3.2.iso

If I would do it "for real", I would have read the whole manual and attempt to tweak every possible thing, it would take much longer to do the same thing.

 

Maybe Fedora 26 LXDE doesn't work because of LXDE, which desktop version of Fedora 24 do you use exactly (KDE,LXDE,Xfce,etc) ?

If I understood what you meant, this doesn't make any sense. The AppVM isn't bothered by the DE you're using on dom0.

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[Marek Jenkins]

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 2:03:05 PM UTC+1, Desobediente wrote:

Thanks for your reply, thats weird. I really don't know why my system is having such issues with HVMs.. I also read all man pages on HVMs and the majority of the documentation as well.

Initially I thought it could be the boot-up kernel issues described here (https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/linux-hvm-tips/) but I am not 100% sure, because the fixes didn't really apply to my situation. The fix was to replace "rhgb" in GRUB, but my GRUB file didn't include it at all..

Therefore, for now I will continue to try different versions/distros. But mainly I am interested in getting Debian and Fedora to work as HVMs.

So far I only created "Standalone HVMs" with the terminal.
I will now try to create "TemplateHVMs" or "TemplateBasedHVMs" and keep you posted. I hope it works ;)

Do you have any other ideas ?

PS: By Fedora 26 LXDE i meant that I used a spin of Fedora 26 that uses LXLE. Its an official release just with a more light-weight DE. I didn't mean the DE on dom0.

Kind regards,
Marek

[donoban]

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Maybe is not related to your problem but booting kali iso I always had
a black screen with a cursor until I've added RAM to the HVM.
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