Why isn't it possible to manually control if the pc should enable networking and wi-fy at login or not ?

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ME

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Dec 20, 2020, 4:59:41 AM12/20/20
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Why isn't it possible to manually control if the pc should enable networking and wi-fy at login or not ?

unman

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Dec 20, 2020, 8:38:18 AM12/20/20
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 01:59:41AM -0800, ME wrote:
> Why isn't it possible to manually control if the pc should enable
> networking and wi-fy at login or not ?
>

It is.
You can edit network connections in sys-net to remove "automatically
connect".
Or disable autostart for all qubes, disable the qubes time service,
disable automatic checking for updates. Then your machine will stay
offline until you choose to open a network connection.

Morten Eyrich

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Dec 20, 2020, 10:22:27 AM12/20/20
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How do I edit network connections in sys-net to remove "automatically
connect" ?

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Ulrich Windl

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Dec 20, 2020, 7:06:39 PM12/20/20
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On 12/20/20 10:59 AM, ME wrote:
> Why isn't it possible to manually control if the pc should enable
> networking and wi-fy at login or not ?

You CAN switch sys-net to manual start, and you can disconnect any VM
from the network.

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unman

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Dec 20, 2020, 10:00:52 PM12/20/20
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 04:21:21PM +0100, Morten Eyrich wrote:
> How do I edit network connections in sys-net to remove "automatically
> connect" ?
>
> Den s??n. 20. dec. 2020 kl. 14.38 skrev unman <un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>:
>
> > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 01:59:41AM -0800, ME wrote:
> > > Why isn't it possible to manually control if the pc should enable
> > > networking and wi-fy at login or not ?
> > >
> >
> > It is.
> > You can edit network connections in sys-net to remove "automatically
> > connect".
> > Or disable autostart for all qubes, disable the qubes time service,
> > disable automatic checking for updates. Then your machine will stay
> > offline until you choose to open a network connection.
> >

Right click on the Network Manager Icon - select "Edit Connections".
Select the connection - click on the "Gear" icon.
In the "Editing" window, go to the General Tab, and deselect "Connect
Automatically"

Generally, this is an option that you set (often by omission) when you
make a new connection.

Morten Eyrich

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Dec 21, 2020, 3:26:39 AM12/21/20
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Yes, I could do as you suggest unman.

But the pc's wi-fy will still be turned on and thereby it will be able to connect to it.

So I would like to change this so that every time the pc is turned on, I will have to turn my wi-fy and network connection on.

My question is then: How can I do that ?

unman

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Dec 21, 2020, 9:08:53 AM12/21/20
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Lenovo's have a WiFi switch - if your machine doesnt have one, you could
fit one.
If the WiFi is connected to sys-net it will not be "turned on" unless
you start sys-net. You can test this by scanning your system with
sys-net shutdown.
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