I miss the KDE cpu sensor

[raah...@gmail.com]

It was the only way i had in qubes to see true total cpu use, nothing else shows it. qubes manager or top in dom0, neither does the xfce addon to cpu monitor i'm using called cpu graph. now I just have to go by feel haha and hope because my pc is so crappy that I notice something off just with that. :)

[Drew White]

On Monday, 18 July 2016 13:04:52 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote:
> It was the only way i had in qubes to see true total cpu use, nothing else shows it. qubes manager or top in dom0, neither does the xfce addon to cpu monitor i'm using called cpu graph. now I just have to go by feel haha and hope because my pc is so crappy that I notice something off just with that. :)

run "xentop" as root. easy. :}

[raah...@gmail.com]

ya that is what i'm doing now, since qubes manager is never accurate. But it doesn't show a total. and was just nice to have that applet on the panel of kde.

[Drew White]

On Wednesday, 20 July 2016 01:01:48 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote:
> ya that is what i'm doing now, since qubes manager is never accurate. But it doesn't show a total. and was just nice to have that applet on the panel of kde.

The qubes manager isn't that innacurate.

I know that XFCE has it. Maybe try that instead?

[Drew White]

You miss the KDE sensor for CPU, I miss the networking stats... On NetVM and FirewallVm I have to run bwm-ng all the time because I can't see each individual network stats.

[raah...@gmail.com]

xfce has what?

[raah...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 9:48:36 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> You miss the KDE sensor for CPU, I miss the networking stats... On NetVM and FirewallVm I have to run bwm-ng all the time because I can't see each individual network stats.

haha nice, I have to check that applet out. Ya man sometimes when my old dinosaur of a computer start lagging out i'm like wtf is going on. I look in qubes manager and everything adding to like 20% use from a couple vms. I look at kde applet and its showing like 90% total cpu use and I think ok, it wasn't just me in head, something is going on and try to investigate. Would love i/o activity in qubes manager as well.

I still run etherape on screen in sys-net. So much better then feeling like its making me vulnerable on bare metal os, who cares if etherape gets hacked in sys net, plus I remove that vm often anyways lol. On this machine it prolly don't matter but good practice anyways imo.

[Drew White]

On Wednesday, 20 July 2016 12:05:59 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote:

XFCE has CPU meter for the system bar.

> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 9:48:36 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> > You miss the KDE sensor for CPU, I miss the networking stats... On NetVM and FirewallVm I have to run bwm-ng all the time because I can't see each individual network stats.
>
> haha nice, I have to check that applet out. Ya man sometimes when my old dinosaur of a computer start lagging out i'm like wtf is going on. I look in qubes manager and everything adding to like 20% use from a couple vms. I look at kde applet and its showing like 90% total cpu use and I think ok, it wasn't just me in head, something is going on and try to investigate. Would love i/o activity in qubes manager as well.
>

I don't assign all my cores to the guests.. I only assign a maximum of 4 to any guest. That way, there is still processing power left for XEN.
XFCE has IO display as well.
There are other monitors in Dom0 that can show you the IO as well. I just can't remember where they were been a while since I used them.

> I still run etherape on screen in sys-net. So much better then feeling like its making me vulnerable on bare metal os, who cares if etherape gets hacked in sys net, plus I remove that vm often anyways lol. On this machine it prolly don't matter but good practice anyways imo.

I run text based. Not graphics based in any way. Uses less CPU then.

[raah...@gmail.com]

I'm not sure what you mean by xfce has io display, do you mean the task manager? I don't find it accurate. I installed iotop to dom0 once but I figure maybe not a good idea to install anything to dom0. Is there some xen command to show it?

[J. Eppler]

xl top is the xen counterpart to the linux top command

[Drew White]

On Thursday, 21 July 2016 01:05:48 UTC+10, J. Eppler wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you mean by xfce has io display, do you mean the task manager? I don't find it accurate. I installed iotop to dom0 once but I figure maybe not a good idea to install anything to dom0. Is there some xen command to show it?

I install things in dom0, because if certain things aren't in Dom0, then the machine is useless.
In XFCE it has the widgets to show it all, built into the O/S.

> xl top is the xen counterpart to the linux top command

xl top = xentop