Installing Older Kernels

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Drew White

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Jul 14, 2016, 8:12:24 AM7/14/16
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Hi folks,

How do I install older kernels?
I want them to be installed for he older templates I have, but installed under a later version of Qubes, just for Fedora 23 for example.

How can I do this please?

Andrew David Wong

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Jul 14, 2016, 6:14:05 PM7/14/16
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You can try based on what's described here, combining "How to downgrade a
specific package" with "Kernel Upgrade," but I don't know whether it'll work:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/#tocAnchor-1-1-3

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Drew White

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Jul 14, 2016, 6:26:52 PM7/14/16
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On Friday, 15 July 2016 08:14:05 UTC+10, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> You can try based on what's described here, combining "How to downgrade a
> specific package" with "Kernel Upgrade," but I don't know whether it'll work:
>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/#tocAnchor-1-1-3

Thanks, I'll give it a try and let you know if successful or not.

Drew White

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Jul 14, 2016, 6:35:40 PM7/14/16
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On Friday, 15 July 2016 08:14:05 UTC+10, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> You can try based on what's described here, combining "How to downgrade a
> specific package" with "Kernel Upgrade," but I don't know whether it'll work:
>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/#tocAnchor-1-1-3

How do I enable updating from an old version of Qubes? Or do I have to install from the DVDs?

Andrew David Wong

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Jul 14, 2016, 6:38:08 PM7/14/16
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I'm not sure what you mean. Normally, you can update any version of Qubes by
running qubes-dom0-update. That should work on "old" versions just the same.

Are you talking about upgrading from one version to the next, e.g., 3.0 -> 3.1?

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Drew White

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Jul 14, 2016, 6:49:17 PM7/14/16
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On Friday, 15 July 2016 08:38:08 UTC+10, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean. Normally, you can update any version of Qubes by
> running qubes-dom0-update. That should work on "old" versions just the same.
>
> Are you talking about upgrading from one version to the next, e.g., 3.0 -> 3.1?

Essentially, maybe, but I mean accessing the kernels for 3.1 and 3.0 and 2.1 and 2.0 etc...

Because in 3.2 it only has access to the 3.2 files.
Or is it Fedora Packages I need the older versions of?

Andrew David Wong

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Jul 14, 2016, 9:44:44 PM7/14/16
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I seem to recall someone recently asking how to pull old kernels off previous
ISOs. You might want to try searching the archives for that thread.

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raah...@gmail.com

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Jul 14, 2016, 11:29:42 PM7/14/16
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Are you talking about the kernel for dom0 or fedora template? Why do you want an older kernel?

Drew White

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Jul 16, 2016, 1:03:01 AM7/16/16
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On Friday, 15 July 2016 13:29:42 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote:
> Are you talking about the kernel for dom0 or fedora template? Why do you want an older kernel?

I have backups of older Linux Guests, Fedora 23. From Qubes 3.1, and RESTORING them into 3.2, but since the backup doesn't backup the kernel that is used, OR the full guest, the guest itself is completely broken. And since it's broken I cant even restore it to a new installation of 3.1.

raah...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2016, 2:22:46 AM7/16/16
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Why do you need the older kernel, what do you mean by broken?

Drew White

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Jul 16, 2016, 2:26:39 AM7/16/16
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I restore it, it says it will use the newer kernel, but then it just doesn't start or says it can't find the files or folder or says it just can't boot or starts then immediately shuts down.

raah...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2016, 2:35:25 AM7/16/16
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did you make any custom modifications to that template? I believe qubes recommend you don't do that to default templates cause it can cause restore errors and use a cloned template instead.

If its just a matter of installing some apps, just keep a list and reinstall them on new system is probably easier.

Drew White

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Jul 16, 2016, 3:04:21 AM7/16/16
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It was a standalone AppVM. Complete copy, then alterations.

The fact I altered the templates to remove the .., and put on security applications that I require for all templates, whether they are standard or not. If they are on the system, I'll add security. Such as Anti-Malware products that I trust. So not Nortons, not AVG, not Avast, only ones that are good.

Not to mention adding my scripts that I add in to the /rw/rc.local because that is required for all of my templates to set the settings and things that Qubes doesn't set properly that I have reported before that still are not resolved.

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