xfce4 some questions

[Eva Star]

Some questions:

1) How to disable "restore windows" at startup? I mean when I shutdown Q
and I have opened dom0 console, then this console show after reboot on
the desktop. How to disable? I'm already tried "Sessions and Startup" -
"Xfce Teminal" - Never. then after reboot it reset to default "if running"

2) After reboot selected last virtual desktop. How to always select
first one?

3) `xset b` can change beeper settings. It working only at current
setting and restore after reboot. How to save the changes forever?

4) UpdateVM window get focus (Whonix Browser Update) and I time to time
I click "confirm" without real confirmation. Because it get focus! How
to fix this?

Thanks


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[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-12-15 05:41, Eva Star wrote:
> Some questions:
>
> 1) How to disable "restore windows" at startup? I mean when I
> shutdown Q and I have opened dom0 console, then this console show
> after reboot on the desktop. How to disable? I'm already tried
> "Sessions and Startup" - "Xfce Teminal" - Never. then after reboot
> it reset to default "if running"
>

How did you enable this in the first place? My system doesn't do that.

> 2) After reboot selected last virtual desktop. How to always
> select first one?
>

(Same as previous.)

Perhaps it has to do with the way you're shutting down the system. How
are you shutting down?

> 3) `xset b` can change beeper settings. It working only at current
> setting and restore after reboot. How to save the changes forever?
>
> 4) UpdateVM window get focus (Whonix Browser Update) and I time to
> time I click "confirm" without real confirmation. Because it get
> focus! How to fix this?
>

Try this:

Settings Manager -> Window Manager -> Focus -> New window focus

Uncheck "Automatically give focus to newly created windows."

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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[Eva Star]

On 12/15/2016 04:52 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>
> How did you enable this in the first place? My system doesn't do that.
>

I do not enable this. It's look like session storage, but it's disabled
here `xfce4-sessions-settings`

>> 2) After reboot selected last virtual desktop. How to always
>> select first one?
>>
>
> (Same as previous.)
>
> Perhaps it has to do with the way you're shutting down the system. How
> are you shutting down?

I run the bash script to shutdown all VMs, then I go to Alt-F1 -> LogOut
-> Shutdown. I do that with keyboard, because sys-usb shutdown very
quick and I'm without mouse :(

>
> Try this:
>
> Settings Manager -> Window Manager -> Focus -> New window focus
>
> Uncheck "Automatically give focus to newly created windows."

Thanks, I will try this.


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[Andrew David Wong]

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On 12/15/16 07:57, Eva Star wrote:
> On 12/15/2016 04:52 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>>
>> How did you enable this in the first place? My system doesn't do that.
>>
>
> I do not enable this. It's look like session storage, but it's disabled here `xfce4-sessions-settings`
>
>>> 2) After reboot selected last virtual desktop. How to always
>>> select first one?
>>>
>>
>> (Same as previous.)
>>
>> Perhaps it has to do with the way you're shutting down the system. How
>> are you shutting down?
>
> I run the bash script to shutdown all VMs, then I go to Alt-F1 -> LogOut -> Shutdown. I do that with keyboard, because sys-usb shutdown very quick and I'm without mouse :(
>

Hm. Not sure if this'll make a difference, but try shutting down
all VMs, then shutting down from the command-line. For example:

$ qvm-shutdown --wait --all
$ shutdown now

>
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> Settings Manager -> Window Manager -> Focus -> New window focus
>>
>> Uncheck "Automatically give focus to newly created windows."
> Thanks, I will try this.
>

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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[Eva Star]

On 12/15/2016 07:10 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

>
> Hm. Not sure if this'll make a difference, but try shutting down
> all VMs, then shutting down from the command-line. For example:
>
> $ qvm-shutdown --wait --all
> $ shutdown now
>

I wrote the bash script and at it to the xfce4 launcher. Then I start
the script with mouse. The first step the same, but then I call standard
shutdown from menu (describe above). Then problem, that execution of
qvm-shutdown --wait --all not always end (known problem) and after
computer reboot, the same console show on the desktop an my script begin
to execute (shutdown script begin to execute after reboot, because
console not closed, it somewhere stored at the session :( )



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[Andrew David Wong]

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On 12/15/16 08:19, Eva Star wrote:
> On 12/15/2016 07:10 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>
>>
>> Hm. Not sure if this'll make a difference, but try shutting down
>> all VMs, then shutting down from the command-line. For example:
>>
>> $ qvm-shutdown --wait --all
>> $ shutdown now
>>
>
> I wrote the bash script and at it to the xfce4 launcher. Then I start the script with mouse. The first step the same, but then I call standard shutdown from menu (describe above). Then problem, that execution of qvm-shutdown --wait --all not always end (known problem)

FWIW, I've been using simple shutdown and reboot scripts to work
around this issue (I think since I first started using Qubes).
Here's an example:

#!/bin/bash
qvm-shutdown --wait --all \
- --exclude=sys-net \
- --exclude=sys-firewall \
- --exclude=sys-usb \
- --exclude=sys-whonix \
- --exclude=sys-whonix \
- --exclude=sys-other-1 \
- --exclude=sys-other-2 \
qvm-shutdown --wait --all
sleep 3
shutdown now

Works every time. The idea is to exclude all service VMs from the
first pass of qvm-shutdown so that it doesn't jam up (#1826), so
if you use VPN VMs, exclude those too.

> and after computer reboot, the same console show on the desktop an my script begin to execute (shutdown script begin to execute after reboot, because console not closed, it somewhere stored at the session :( )
>

Did you do an in-place upgrade or a clean install of 3.2? If you
did an in-place upgrade, perhaps some setting got carried over.

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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[Eva Star]

On 12/15/2016 07:27 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

> #!/bin/bash
> qvm-shutdown --wait --all \
> - --exclude=sys-net \
> - --exclude=sys-firewall \
> - --exclude=sys-usb \
> - --exclude=sys-whonix \
> - --exclude=sys-whonix \
> - --exclude=sys-other-1 \
> - --exclude=sys-other-2 \
> qvm-shutdown --wait --all
> sleep 3
> shutdown now
>
> Works every time. The idea is to exclude all service VMs from the
> first pass of qvm-shutdown so that it doesn't jam up (#1826), so
> if you use VPN VMs, exclude those too.
>

Good advice. Thanks. I have the problem with my ProxyVMs. It's great
idea to shutdown workVMs first, then ProxyVms, then all other Vms.
I do not know about `exclude` option before :)



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