Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Next update of Qubes?

[Ulrich Windl]

On 5/23/20 5:32 PM, Catacombs wrote:
> I see that Qubes does not announce planned new releases of Qubes, or
> state what should trigger an update.
>
> I am between updating Qubes with Fedora 32, which also means creating
> AppVMs, I am not sure how I would update the Work VM, as it is, I am
> guessing, based on Fedora 32.  All this translates to my working with
> Salt, which is shown a lot of in this forum.  Meaning I should learn
> Salt and some other things.
>
> Just seems like it would be so much easier if we had an entire new
> version of Qubes, which I could install.  At the same time, I am making

+1 At least some kind of installable "service pack" would be nice. Maybe
such "service pack" could be as simple as some reliable(!) script that
performs the upgrades required.

> sure any Malware I might have picked up gets clobbered.   And leaving me
> with the problem of re installing all of my personal files, my own
> personal fixes to Template VMs.  Instead many are learning Salt.
>
> This question also comes back to making Qubes easy for Human Rights
> Activists and Journalists.   I do not think those two groups will go to
> the trouble of learning how to install Salt.  I agree that since most of

+1 Even IT professionals that only use Qubes OS occasionally might not
want to "dig in" that deeply...

> the changes for Human Rights Activists/Journalists are made inside
> Template VMs of (now usually Debian, or Fedora), that the folks who
> create Qubes for us, should not concern themselves with those things.

Specifically I see the danger to do things wrong that might affect both
privacy and security.

>
> So, anyone here have a guess as to what new version of Qubes might be
> nearly out?  Or should I start reading about how to work with Salt?

That failure of not having an updated version ready in time is a bit
like "We didn't expect Christmas to be that early this year". ;-)

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