On Sun, Apr 12, 2026 at 05:04:25PM +0000, 'parulin' via qubes-devel wrote:
There's an unfortunate assumption that all users who use screen readers
are incapable of viewing images. This is not true. (I've argued this
point repeatedly across various fora with little success.)
> Thanks for your comments
>
> On 4/12/26 12:29, 'unman' via qubes-devel wrote:
> > 1. There should always be an Alt tag. If a screenshot is described
> > in nearby text, then a simple description in alt text is appropriate:
> > it should not be left empty. An empty Alt tag will in most cases lead
> > screen readers to skip that element.
>
> I will take an example: I don't understand how having "Boot screen" helps
> the user figure out something useful while the surrounding text is providing
> a description of everything meaningful in the screenshot (in the
> "Installation guide").
I agree that "Boot Screen" is inadequate alt text. But if the image
displays any worthwhile information then users should know what it is,
and have the opportunity to view it if they can. If the image does not
display worthwhile information why is it there?
>
> > 4. If the image is purely decorative, the Alt text can be "decorative",
> > a single space, or left empty. Users differ on this.
>
> I learned that leaving an single space instead of using an empty alt should
> be avoided. What do you mean by "users differ on this"?
I mean users of screen readers.
Note that even users who cannot see any images may still wish to know
they are there, even if purely decorative. (E.g for orientation on the
page when discussing with sighted users.)
>
> > I do not think that we need duplicate material elsewhere explaining why
> > this is important.
>
> Right, but we should point contributors to good external resources
> explaining that. And the current example given in the how-to contradicts
> your comment #6...
I think not . I said "need not" , not "should not".
In any case, a more immediate issue is that currently many images are
rendered as links: the link text is taken from the alt text, and the
target is the source file. So readers generate "link", not "image" 0
definitely sub-optimal.