On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:00 PM, <drew....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm still having a few issues with the freezing of the system, and requiring
> some information regarding Windows Tools.
> I'm getting nowhere in the user area, so I'm here to find out the answers to
> these questions as no dev has answered this on there and all I get is
> attacked by people that think I know nothing and am wrong.
>
> But anyway...
Yeah good luck with that, unfortunatley Qubes support appears to
royally suck.... Ive been trying to get some answers on why XEN
passthru is still broken
after 6+ months, and nothing, no response..... nice idea, badly
implemented, terrible support......
I infrequently experience this, but find that disconnecting/reconnecting
my usb keyboard and mouse will bring things back to life.
HTH
On 10/12/2016 08:26 AM, drew....@gmail.com wrote:
> Any updates yet for these issues? (as in updates I don't mean software
> updates/patches/fixes, but information on tests done or requests for more
> details)
Given the small size of the Qubes dev team, how busy they seem to be,
the randomness of your problem, and its specificity (you seem to be the
only one encountering that issue), I wouldn't count too much on getting
dedicated help. Until Qubes' user base reaches a critical mass where
there is enough advanced users or devs with time to debug specific
issues like yours, it makes sense for the current dev team to focus on
more critical stuff like fixing issues many people encounter or going on
with the development roadmap, which ends up benefiting the whole Qubes
community.
Granted, someone could have answered that they don't have time working
on your issue though.
That said you may get some help if you could reproduce the bug reliably
and show that the bug you're encountering is really because of Qubes,
and not because of XEN or because of your hardware (RAM corruption, bad
PSU, you name it). That would mean wiping Qubes, installing the same XEN
version Qubes uses and setting up a virtualized fc23.
But since your bug is random you'll probably end up spending a lot of
time on trying stuff without any guarantee that your issue will be fixed.
If Qubes is critical for you I would advise buying a laptop/PC that you
know will work with Qubes (that's what I've done - I bought a thinkpad
t450s after spending too much time trying to have Qubes working on my
older t400).
All of that probably doesn't help you much. It would probably be a good
idea to have "Why does nobody pay attention to my bug report" section in
the wiki/FAQ somewhere.
It's a pretty heavy-handed opinion, but if you have time/fun tweaking
Qubes to work without systemd then good for you. Following your logic,
you could also remove the DE you're using in dom0 as it probably has
major security holes too, as well as a pile of other stuff that will
make your system really secure^Wempty.
By the way, aren't you using Qubes because its architecture was made to
cope with unsecure software in the first place ? (rhetorical question).
On 10/14/2016 06:42 AM, drew....@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> On Friday, 14 October 2016 00:47:44 UTC+11, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote:
>
> On 09/30/2016 02:20 AM, drew....@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote:
> >
> > Next question...
> >
> > Will Qubes work without SystemD?
> > Will it run if it's built on a system that has no SystemD?
>
> systemd (not SystemD) is integral to the operation of Qubes OS,
> especially on dom0 and ServiceVMs. The way that boot-up events are
> ordered relies on the dependency and ordering engine of systemd,
> as well
> as other features of it. You are not going to have a good time
> removing
> the hard dependency on systemd.
>
>
> Well won't it be FUN when THAT changes?
> Systemd is on it's way out.. It's one of the most hated things...
You mean "it's one of the things *I* hate the most".
> and I'm going to build Qubes without it.
>
Best of luck.
> That way, it's not like I'm using Windows any more, but actually using
> Linux again.
>
Ah, yes, the good old "we finally got an Apple launchd style init system
on Linux, it's like we're all using Microsoft Windows now!" non-argument.
> Systemd doesn't really do that much differently, other than being a
> central point that is only a point of vulnerability and failure for
> the system.
>
Which vulnerabilities and failures? Unpatched CVEs please. Thanks.
> I just want to remove this MAJOR security hole.
Which hole? Time after time systemd haters have failed to prove this
contention of theirs. Allegations and allegations, nothing concrete.
> And I will, because it can be easily done.
I will be happy to see you succeed. I think you will fail miserably,
but if you succeed, more power to you.
> Then I just have to build qubes on it and alter things to not use
> systemd. Piece of cake.
Looking forward to seeing your GONEME clone of Qubes OS.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:00 PM, <drew....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm still having a few issues with the freezing of the system, and requiring
> some information regarding Windows Tools.
> I'm getting nowhere in the user area, so I'm here to find out the answers to
> these questions as no dev has answered this on there and all I get is
> attacked by people that think I know nothing and am wrong.
>
> But anyway...
Yeah good luck with that, unfortunatley Qubes support appears to
royally suck.... Ive been trying to get some answers on why XEN
passthru is still broken
after 6+ months, and nothing, no response..... nice idea, badly
implemented, terrible support......