Fedora Silverblue / Atomic Workstation

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Scott Tankard

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Nov 2, 2018, 2:04:46 AM11/2/18
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My apologies if there is a better thread for this but I searched and did not find. :)

Fedora 29 is out today, and it includes a variant image that is Fedora Silverblue -- Fedora Workstation, but with rpm-ostree, immutable root fs, containerized apps, etc. This has many security benefits.

https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/

Back in 2015, J Rutkowska mentioned:

> 6. Last but not least, having a meaningful intra-VM root-protecting system
> allows to us to finally provide a meaningful defense-in-depth against hypervisor
> exploits (such as the infamous XSA148).

From: https://web.archive.org/web/20161002204801/https://secure-os.org/pipermail/desktops/2015-October/000003.html

While a Subgraph template for Qubes didn't/hasn't yet become stable, it seems to me that a Fedora Silverblue template could bring some (not all) of the same benefits. It seems like the Silverblue project is heading towards implementing a lot of Subgraph-style features into regular Fedora.

For more info on Silverblue, see:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/#_what_are_the_advantages_of_silverblue_over_traditional_distros

https://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2018/02/fedora-atomic-workstation/

Jonathan Lebon: Fearless upgrades with Fedora Atomic Workstation (DevConf, Jan 28, 2018)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c3GdfhWzcc

Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

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Nov 2, 2018, 10:32:10 AM11/2/18
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That's indeed very interesting approach. And I think the separation of
"OS" and "apps" (and "data"?) should neatly fit into qubes templates!
I definitely need to try it out and see how to make a qubes template out
of it.

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Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
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