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russ price

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Oct 23, 2019, 4:13:55 PM10/23/19
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Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ

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The quantum towbar is a modified MK1/2 ford fiesta .the longitudinal bar is lengthened and bolts through the  back of the rear axle tunnel. There are two bolts holding the back part just above the ball and they bolt through a bar across the inside width of the boot which is bolted through the boot floor in four places. Item 282694164669 on eBay 

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Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ

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Oct 23, 2019, 5:00:31 PM10/23/19
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Item 292996428941 on eBay you have to extend part a  till it reaches the axle tunnel 
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Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ

Andy Heaton

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Oct 24, 2019, 2:43:43 AM10/24/19
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Contact Dillan at ADS Fabrications Yate Near Bristol 07977727357.
Custom made towbars for the saloons that we have.
he also has detailed drawings.
Regards Andy Heaton 

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Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ

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philfi2clean cleaning

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Oct 24, 2019, 2:43:55 AM10/24/19
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If it's the same one as the 2+2 I have a brand new one in my cellar that cost me £100

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russ price

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Oct 24, 2019, 3:27:33 AM10/24/19
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Thanks for the replies - given me something to think about. Russ

russ price

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Jul 15, 2020, 5:42:47 AM7/15/20
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Aufer Do you still have the towbar?


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If it's the same one as the 2+2 I have a brand new one in my cellar that cost me £100

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Item 292996428941 on eBay you have to extend part a  till it reaches the axle tunnel 
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Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ

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chris...@btinternet.com

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Jul 15, 2020, 6:20:06 AM7/15/20
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Russ,
 
It’s not the same as the 2+2 towbar.
 
I found this pic in the saloon manual. It’s not the best but you can see how it has been extended so it can bolt onto the axel hump.
 
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philfi2clean cleaning

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Jul 15, 2020, 6:30:03 AM7/15/20
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Yes it's in the cellar 

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russ price

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Jul 15, 2020, 9:33:29 AM7/15/20
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Aufer Thanks for quick reply. Do you have a picture of it ?  Does it look even remotely like the image Chris  G posted ? I believe both the saloon & 2+2 are modified Fiesta MK2.
Chris G Thanks for the image.

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russ price

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Jul 15, 2020, 9:38:22 AM7/15/20
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 I tried ADS a couple times over the last few months and got no reply so had more or less given up on them, today i thought i would give them one last try and got through, they will get back to me but it looks hopeful.
Aufer Sorry to have messed you around, however if you are looking to sell yours have you seen the ad in classifieds looking for one.

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Darren Siepka

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I'm looking for a 2+2 towbar if anyone has one for sale or has the details how it differs to the saloon one (I have a bar fitted on my saloon  I can measure/copy)

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Jul 16, 2020, 3:26:19 AM7/16/20
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i do have a 2+2 towbar ...i just need to get into my cellar and find it....which i wont be able to do until saturday...ill post some pics for you

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I took 5 photos of the towbar on my saloon and tried to send them yesterday, but the file size was too big, so unsuccessful. I’ll send them via WETRANSFER, which will then make them dowloadable for a period (7 days IIRC)

Please ignore the rust (which shows up more in the photos!) I’ll have to paint it again. NB there are 4 bolts across the rear panel, these attach the towbar and a strip of steel (1.5 inches from memory by about 4mm thick) which is on the inside of the panel to spread the load. The 2 outermost bolts are visible near the ends of and under the number plate.  There  is a vertical strip of steel welded to the end of the towbar extension which is bolter to the vertical GRP behind the axle (as per diagram in an earlier note). Russ, let me know if you need any more photos.

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Steve Kodź

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Jul 16, 2020, 6:45:33 AM7/16/20
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Martin has given me the photos and I've added them to the QOC site as a FAQ/Gallery.

https://www.quantumowners.club/index.php/faq-qoc/27-faq-saloon/335-quantum-saloon-towbar

Regards,
Steve

kynastonp .

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You need a picture of the inside of the boot  , there is a steel strengthening piece longer than the number plate in the boot that spreads the load along the rear panel. You can just see the 4 bolts that hold it in place just under the number plate.

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Steve Kodź

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If anyone has additional photos either email them to me or I can provide a link to upload.

Regards,
Steve

Darren Siepka

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Those 2+2 pics would be great thanks.
Also if anyone has one to sell I would be interested too.
Darren

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russ price

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Picked up new tow bar from ADS Fabrications, looks well made. Ordered thinking I would not have time do a mock up and get one made locally before Stoneleigh, turns out i have more than enough time, it does look neat though and less "agricultural" than i would have made.


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Could you post a couple of pics. 
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On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 9:13:55 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ.

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Neat job
 
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I may have missed something, but, Russ, did you give ADS dimensions, or your car, or have they a drawing they are working from. I’ve not heard of ADS, but maybe they have made them before?

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Picked up new tow bar from ADS Fabrications, looks well made. Ordered thinking I would not have time do a mock up and get one made locally before Stoneleigh, turns out i have more than enough time, it does look neat though and less "agricultural" than i would have made.

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Andy Heaton

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DIllan at ADS fabrications did the drawings after working on the dark lord Q

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Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ

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Hans Defauwes

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Hi,
 
My water temperature gauge does not move anymore
 
how to test if it is the xr2 dashboard meter or the water temp sender?
 
Hans
 
 
 

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Earth the wire going to the sender, meter should move to the hot end of the range no movement suspect gauge, movement suspect sender.

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Hans Defauwes

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Thanks,
 
Seems I need to take the dashboard out to test the wire/temp gauge . .  . .

Jim Hearne

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Is the fuel gauge still working ok ?
If thats stopped working as well then it could be the voltage regulator on the back of the instrument cluster.
 
Jim

Hans Defauwes

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The fuel gauge is since a month indeed faulty too = mostly on full even when empty
 
Where do I find the voltage regulator on the back?
Is it still available or is there a substitute?
 
Hans

Bill Allison

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Aug 12, 2020, 3:53:15 AM8/12/20
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Hi Hans

Those are opposite symptoms - fuel gauge shorted to earth (intermittently), temp gauge open circuit. If there is a single cause a possibility (not uncommon) is that the wiring loom has been chafing on the steering column bracket. That's something that should be checked as a matter of urgency to nip any more serious problems in the bud. By the way, if you haven't done it before, removing the instrument cluster can seem quite daunting but it's actually quite easy.


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Jim Hearne

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They look like this (Earlier version) or this (solid state version).
 
Mounted on the rear of the instrument cluster.
You can measure the output to the common connection of the 2 gauges, should be 10v i think though if it’s the early type regulator you may see a pulsing voltage.
 
But, as Bill says, the fuel gauge going to full is the opposite effect to the temperature gauge.
It could be an earthing issue on the rear of the cluster.
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