2+2 clutch issue

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Chris Fairlie

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Jan 21, 2023, 8:54:46 AM1/21/23
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I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a replacement.

Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the clutch.

If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a replacement for the following?

The friction plate is marked

Motorcraft
90 AB 7550 CA
LOW LIFT
LUK

Thanks in advance

Chris Fairlie
Q2-001

Darren Siepka

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Jan 21, 2023, 9:12:37 AM1/21/23
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Tbh I would have got a new cover and plate .
There are plenty of options on the likes of eBay, including some luk branded ones.

A bit like getting new discs and fitting new pads to match the wear , so the flywheel . The old clutch disc will have worn to the old flywheel surface wear pattern and likely isn't biting all over now.

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susanandmartin

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Jan 21, 2023, 12:23:32 PM1/21/23
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Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊

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Chris Fairlie

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Jan 22, 2023, 3:41:56 AM1/22/23
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Thanks Martin and Darren

 

I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable.

 

Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a compatible substitute.

 

I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong.

 

Chris

Chris Fairlie

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Jan 22, 2023, 3:42:57 AM1/22/23
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Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow.

Dave English

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Jan 22, 2023, 4:41:47 AM1/22/23
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Doesn't help with the juddering problem, which, as was mentioned earlier, is just new cover/old plate and may improve with use, but my early 2+2 (Q2009) had the same problem with not enough movement on the clutch. Modifying the plastic clutch quadrant at the pedal helped but later I found a standard Ford clutch quadrant that did the job. Here's the details:               

55mm Granada Mk2 / Escort Mk3 (81-86)

   Ford P/N: 78GB7L583AC

With this a standard friction plate will work and you won't need the low lift one.

Regards
Dave English

Jim Hearne

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Jan 22, 2023, 5:03:36 AM1/22/23
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Remember the clutch cover and the clutch release bearing need to me matched, either low lift or normal, you can’t use a low lift cover plate with a normal release bearing or visa versa.
 
Used as a pair they should be interchangeable.
 
Jim

susanandmartin

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Jan 22, 2023, 11:23:46 AM1/22/23
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Hi Chris,

I was going to suggest the clutch release can be improved, as Dave has said it won’t help the judder. There is a manual pedal which replaced the automatic adjustment (same as Fiesta) previously used on the Escort – I don’t know if Ford also carried it onto the Fiesta, but there was clearly a problem with the Escort. Anyway, the pedal is a direct replacement for the one on the Fiesta, and can be used with the 55mm quadrant you may already have, although the quadrant has to be modified. It has a manual adjustment, so not relying on the unreliable? Ratchet. I have the parts and will have a go at fitting them on my saloon, as the clutch cable movement sometimes works ok but clearly isn’t always holding the correct length.

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susanandmartin

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Feb 17, 2023, 4:16:48 AM2/17/23
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Hi Chris,

Did you have success with finding a clutch kit?

Chris Fairlie

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Feb 18, 2023, 3:39:23 AM2/18/23
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Martin

 

 

Following Jim Hearne’s advice, I decided to fit a new standard clutch I bought 4 years ago. The bite point is a bit lower, so I bought a manual adjust clutch pedal from Burton Power, but now that I have driven it more I have found it driveable so not rushing to fit it.

 

I’m also pleased to report the judder on moving off has gone.

 

Thanks all for your advice

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