Water Temp Sensor

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robert greig

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Sep 20, 2018, 8:05:52 AM9/20/18
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Hello Everyone.

I have a black top Zetec from a 2004/5 focus with a Raceline water rail fitted.
The water Temp Sensor is not a ford Focus part, its the same ford connecter but the thread and probe bit are a different size.

My old Temp Sensor has 16F7  and  W715c stamped on it. 

I am told by Raceline that the thread is R8PNT


Dose anyone else have this?

As I need a new Sensor but all my attempts keeps coming up with the wrong part.
Any ideas where to try next?

Regards Robert. 

Ken Needham

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Sep 21, 2018, 3:23:41 AM9/21/18
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Hi Robert, It is possible to fit a temp sensor in three places on the Raceline water rail.

  1. Just behind the head where the original Mondeo thermostat would have been. I think this is 1/8 NTP.
  2. Roughly half way along the rail towards the Thermostat. This thread is much larger 3/8 NTP maybe?
  3. At the thermostat. I believe this is normally use for the Fan temp sensor.

All are different size threads. Which one are you using?

I will look at mine and see if there are nay marks

Regards

Ken

 

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robert greig

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Sep 21, 2018, 11:16:39 AM9/21/18
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It's er.. I'll have to take a pic. 



Just above the white cloth. Dose that help? 

Ken Needham

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Sep 22, 2018, 8:40:01 AM9/22/18
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Hi Robert, Ok I have looked at mine and the only marking I can find is “AutoMega”.

A quick look on the web shows similar with a part number of 90510183. Not sure on thread size of that part number.

Other checks show the thread size as being M12 but the thread on the Racelink  is bigger, I measured 5/8”.

I’ll see if I can find more info….

Hope it helps

Regards

Ken

 

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Nigel Plant

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Sep 22, 2018, 12:10:44 PM9/22/18
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On the zetec Xtreme installation, there is no space for a temp sensor on old thermostat housing which is where the raceline bolts on as there is no clearance to the bulkhead. The intermediate position is used for a T piece connected to the water temp sensor and heater hose. Thus leaving the tstat housing for the cooling fan temp sensor.

I will check mine later to see if can help. What about buying from Burton Power who sell Raceline or Raceline themselves.

Out of interest have you checked yours? I have found on mine that the tstat housing is very high and if the water level is down ie expansion tsnk below the sensor the fan performance gets erratic or doesn't work. I assume due to an air lock.
Regards
Nigel

Ken Needham

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Sep 22, 2018, 12:56:52 PM9/22/18
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Hi Nigel, There are several types of Tstat housing used on the Raceline, some with a removable cap and others without. Raceline state that the unit is frequently used with no expansion tank and will require frequent checks for water level.

I also found on one of the Ford chat sites (passion for Ford?) that  problems will be had if  there is no hole in the thermostat to allow a bleed through prior to the stat opening.

The hole needs to be large enough to allow water flow during warmup and small enough to ensure the heater gets sufficient flow. The article I read suggested about 2 – 3 mm hole.

My system does have a removable cap and header tank but I did get too hot

I drilled a 3mm hole in the thermostat which seemed to fix the problem although I have not used the car much since.

I have checked the temp sensor I have fitted in the location along the side of the raceline. It has a 12mm thread which then goes into  a T piece . The thread on the T piece which enters the Raceline is 5/8” OD. As to the thread type It may be NTP or BSP. A BSP fitting will only wind onto the T piece a couple of turns and a BSP male similarly only winds into the Raceline a turn or so before feeling tight. It may be a taper thread.

So I think the answer to Robert’s sensor is that it is an AutoMega or similar with a 12 x 1.5mm thread

Regards

Ken

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robert greig

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Sep 22, 2018, 2:49:17 PM9/22/18
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Having looked at Burton Power and googled AutoMega I've ordered what looks like the right Temp Sensor.
So fingers crossed I get the right part.

Many thanks for your help.
Regards Robert

Ken Needham

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Sep 23, 2018, 7:19:41 AM9/23/18
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I see that there is a range of similar sensors where the difference is the colour of the shroud. I have not been able to find any real retail but I suspect that the colour may relate to the resistance/temperature relationship.

My system uses that sensor to feed the ECU ( An Emerald K6) and has a blue shroud

Regards

Ken

 

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robert greig

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Sep 25, 2018, 4:21:39 PM9/25/18
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Sorry for not replying sooner Nigel.

 " I assume your car has no heater "

Yes. Your right Nigel I have no heater....


" and secondly where is your cooling fan switch?"
 
err Sorry I've have no idea .


I received  the new temp stat. It's a FACT 73149 
 Fitted it ....  :)

Regards Robert Greig




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