Hatsan Grizzly 5.5

[Kayla Munl]

Irefilled the rifle with air and loaded 10 JSB Exact Jumbos into the circular clip. The first group was very telling. Nine out of 10 pellets landed in a 1.668-inch group, but the first shot hit about 4 inches above the top of this main group. Remember what I said about inconsistencies in the first 10 shots after a fill?

RDNA,

Yesterday concerning the Trail NP pistol, I am not interested in more power. I am interested in a lower power gas spring in an air rifle. I for one do not need a high powered sproinger, nor do I desire to deal with all the jumping, slapping and vibration of one. PCP is for power. I would like something of high quality to plink with.

I knew someone would say that! No, this gun is actually affordable,no longer in production but maybe more on the collectible side. The rifling of the barrel began at the breech end and was recessed for about half the barrel length from the muzzle. My memory is shot.Grrr

And matter of fact that is one of the guns I just sold to help get my Hatsan QE. The 2240 conversion to pcp that had that donor barrel I turned down to fit the steel breech from that Flying Dragon 60c. One of the guys at work got it. He absolutely loves the gun. And his younger kids shoot it all the time because its so light. That hi-pac conversion is definitely a cool product in my book.

Once this rifle is available with a wood stock I will take this over the Marauder. I believe this gun will prove to be much more accurate (actually it already is) over time than the Marauder. I have to say that my Marauder, in .177, has not kept up with my personal improvement.

There are better air rifles out there. That is one of the reasons I have hesitated myself. You can bring it up with a LW barrel. .22 or .25 would have been better also. As far as this air rifle, Hatsan is working on it, but it is not there yet.

What is needed is an air rifle of higher quality without the European price tag. I personally think the FX, Daystate, etc. lines are about $500-$800 overpriced. Their quality exceeds that of Crosman and such, however the performance of what they offer is not two to three times better.

Maybe some day someone will start selling rifles of this caliber at more reasonable prices. The problem with that is we have no idea when. So if you want to start shooting at that level sometime soon you have to shell out the money now.

Crosman could take a Marauder to the next level. The basics are there. Come out with a Marauder 2 or a Pro Shop version with a match grade barrel and upgraded internal parts. Offer it with a nice walnut or laminate stock.

Oh I do indeed understand. My point is that Crosman could come out with a very nice version of the Marauder that would shoot with the best and stand a good chance at being about $1000. Will they? Probably not.

You saw that one of my rifles is the RAW TM1000. The action is installed in the BM500 LW style stock for benchrest plus it came with the field target style stock as well. It is my best shooter right now and I just shot it for the first time a couple of days ago. After a few weeks I expect it to be better than it is right now. That benchrest style stock is taking some getting used to.

I have not been hunting for many years because I have not needed to, but it would be nice to have a nice quality air rifle that is capable of such should I feel I need to. When I did hunt, it was always a head shot, so accuracy is always the first consideration with me. It usually does not take much power to penetrate a skull, except maybe mine.

I recently bought an FX Independence with a Hawke Sport Sidewinder 30 tactical 6.5-20 scope. Yes it was worth saving for. Everything about it is WOW! Now I hardly touch my other guns and want to sell my Marauders.

I have had a very flat shooting .25 cal. Mrod. It was modified pretty good and Making serious horsepower with the 31 grn Barracudas. It was in the mid 70 fpe area with the Cudas. The heavy Eun Jin 43 grn pellets were smashing things at 50 yards. 80+ fpe with those.

But I think the power was pushed as far as it would go in my .25 Mrod. I even had the valve out of the gun and took it apart and did some radiusing and opening up and polishing the valve on the inside and the holes and such. And that did bring the power up the most in the gun. But it takes time to do. But not as long as porting and polishing the heads on the race car engines when I was doing them.

I understand your frustration being a lone shooter. I still do most of my shooting by myself, but finding an airgun club about 6 mos. ago has added a new dimension to my enjoyment of airgunning. Especially now that I can compete with others.

The only thing I have not commented on is the trigger. While it is two-stage and adjustable and stage two does break cleanly, it still pulls off a little hard. But that is more of an observation than a criticism. This rifle is a winner.

BB

I did some testing on my hatsan AT44S10-long with the hatsan moderator on it which makes it rather a long barrel with it being 23 inches for the barrel and 8 1/4 inch for the moderator for a total of just over 31 inches. It is whisper quiet though and you only hear the trigger and hammer to valve noise, then the pellet hitting the target.

My testing was at 50 yards with 9 or 10 different pellets (see post to Gunfun1 in Gamo P900 review part 3 for specifics ). I sighted to zero with the Crosman premiers from the tins of wally world and then held over or under to compensate for the different pellet weights. The lightest pellet was just over 12.65gr and had to many flyers, the heaviest was the H&N rabbit magnums and they grouped second best. I tried the H&N field targets at 16.36gr and they were fourth best, the JSB jumbo heavys at 18.13 were third best.

Edith

I got a email about the North Carolina air gun show in October 17 & 18th and was wondering if you and your husband Tom are going to be there. I am going to try and make it and would love to meet you both in person and talk a while with both of you.

BB

I knew you stayed busy and that NC would be quite a distance for you to attend. I have a best friend that lives a short ways from there so it is going to be a visit and attend the show for me.

Rob,

I really do like, want and will get one of these. Glad you got it worked out and thanks for getting back to us on that one too.Obviously very affordable and sturdy, maybe a little heavy duty for average shooting but I like that kind of reassurance.

For all practical purposes the acceleration due to gravity is a constant 32 feet/sec^2 when the vertical velocity is relatively low. The horizontal velocity of the projectile has virtually no effect on the vertical component.

You guys above need to go take a college level class on physics, and if anyone wants to be more accurate in your definition of acceleration, try taking a Calculus class first to learn derivatives and integration, then take an engineering level class on physics where acceleration is dv/dt, and continue from there.

Joe has been with us for several years, has posted hundreds of comments, and has interacted with B.B. and many of our blog readers. In any case, his previous comments have always been polite, helpful and informative.

Reb,

I was replying to Gunfun and the issues he described in choosing a new PCP. I really do not believe in a simple rule. I think there is some math to do to figure out the optimum length of the barrel. Sorry for the miss understanding

Oh and you must of missed what guns I have or had. FX Monsoon .22 Cal., .22 cal. Prod, 1st and 2nd generation Mrods in .22 and .25 cal., Benjamin NP XL in .25 cal. And maybe more that I cant think of right now.

Gunfun

Why do you want the shorter barreled hatsan. Do you like shorter guns as there is only 4 inches difference or is the shorter one on sale versus the long model. I just know my 44 long is sweet, but with the moderator it is quite long. Just curious and I know you will like it no matter what length you get.

Gunfun

I did not realize ILL. had those kind of restrictions because you have talked about your 25 Mrod, I guess it is rated below 700 fps. I hope ILL see what Mich has done and follows suit. That is plain ridiculous to limit power rating on airguns. It could be worse and us live in Canada or the UK and be limited to 12 fpe. I know you like 177s and now I understand why because you are not limited to the power or fps.

Gunfun

I read where you mentioned you had a FOID card and did not know what that was, our politicians sure can come up with some meaningless laws sometimes you know. I guarantee whoever came up with that law has never shot an air gun and probably even a firearm. I would never make it as a politician because I have to much common sense to think up such absurd laws.

You learn something everyday, and you know I sure am glad we grew up in the time we did because if I was a teenager right now I would be breaking some law every day I lived and actually probably are right now anyway. I really hate the world that my grand kids are going to inherit, because their freedom that they have now is so restricted that they will never know what true freedom really was all about

Gunfun

Something drastic is going to happen that is a given, it is not a matter of if but rather when and it will not be for the better unless we have a major upset in the democratic lead bumbling idiots brigade in Washington right now. We need republican control of the house and senate to have a prayers hope of turning this country around at all.

buldawg

I think the drastic thing that happens will be a bigger event then the change of government. I think the world will have to end as we know it. Then it will be up to the people that are left to make things right the next time around.

It could also occur from an attack from another country like China or Russia, North Korea, Irag or Afghanistan because it is very easy and inexpensive to make a bomb that could be detonated 20 miles above the USA which would release it own EMP and shut the entire USA down in an instant.

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