Other Things Rosie Said
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Alec
Nov 12, 2012, 10:18:34 AM11/12/12
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==> [...] but rather imagine to be yet another sprog of influential Friends set up in a nicely-paid sinecure at FH. Apparently in this society of equals us lesser folks are only allowed to comment on the bland subjects provided for us.
I don't respond to specifics about RSoF power structures, but the general point here goes to the nub of my objections to many weighty Church/religious or charity groups (helped by general tax breaks) and public sector positions; all of which attract an aura of virtue and selfless dedication which would be most unfair to criticize. Filled by lateral appointments and within their self-selecting pools, they enjoy superannuated salaries - six, sometimes even seven figures - and copper-plated pensions/payoffs which the rest of us only can dream of.
And, in many cases, decrying the overpay of others.
I'll have to check into the status of the Charity Commission investigation into Amnesty International's paying its top brass salaries and subsequent golden handshakes of dozens of times the minimum wage.
IMO, they are as much troughers as MPs on expenses or glorified local bank managers who rose high in the financial services industry. Then again, at least those groups didn't think they were on a righteous mission.
==> Anyway, the issue that concerns me is about the appropriateness of holding meetings for worship in places inaccessible by public transport or, for most Friends, on foot. I know it's not a new issue, but actually since the beginning of September the early no 6 bus no longer runs from Ulverston centre to the Croftlands Estate where the meeting house is. That leaves quite a lengthy trek to the meeting.
Yes, as I've said before, I found precisely the same restriction when returning the Thurso; placed by those who no doubt preach sustainibility and low carbon footprints, but who meet at out-of-town houses easily accessible on Sundays only by private transport.
I had an urge yesterday to attend a Church service, and chose my old haunt of the Scottish Episcopal Church where I sat in silent worship; and felt the incantation of the Kyrie to be as powerful as any uniterupted silence during MfW.
Interestingly, there are a couple of Eastern Orthodox believers who attend because of its familiarity.
~alec
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==> [...] but rather imagine to be yet another sprog of influential Friends set up in a nicely-paid sinecure at FH. Apparently in this society of equals us lesser folks are only allowed to comment on the bland subjects provided for us.
I don't respond to specifics about RSoF power structures, but the general point here goes to the nub of my objections to many weighty Church/religious or charity groups (helped by general tax breaks) and public sector positions; all of which attract an aura of virtue and selfless dedication which would be most unfair to criticize. Filled by lateral appointments and within their self-selecting pools, they enjoy superannuated salaries - six, sometimes even seven figures - and copper-plated pensions/payoffs which the rest of us only can dream of.
And, in many cases, decrying the overpay of others.
I'll have to check into the status of the Charity Commission investigation into Amnesty International's paying its top brass salaries and subsequent golden handshakes of dozens of times the minimum wage.
IMO, they are as much troughers as MPs on expenses or glorified local bank managers who rose high in the financial services industry. Then again, at least those groups didn't think they were on a righteous mission.
==> Anyway, the issue that concerns me is about the appropriateness of holding meetings for worship in places inaccessible by public transport or, for most Friends, on foot. I know it's not a new issue, but actually since the beginning of September the early no 6 bus no longer runs from Ulverston centre to the Croftlands Estate where the meeting house is. That leaves quite a lengthy trek to the meeting.
Yes, as I've said before, I found precisely the same restriction when returning the Thurso; placed by those who no doubt preach sustainibility and low carbon footprints, but who meet at out-of-town houses easily accessible on Sundays only by private transport.
I had an urge yesterday to attend a Church service, and chose my old haunt of the Scottish Episcopal Church where I sat in silent worship; and felt the incantation of the Kyrie to be as powerful as any uniterupted silence during MfW.
Interestingly, there are a couple of Eastern Orthodox believers who attend because of its familiarity.
~alec
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