Question about Xbox Adaptive Controller support via Brook Wingman XE on QuadStick USB-A Host Port

[Trever Vallieres]

Hi,

(I sent this message to Fred through the contact form on the website, but I figured I would ask it here also in case someone knows the answer.)

I'm working on a new adaptive gaming setup and had a question about using the Xbox Adaptive Controller with the QuadStick.

I'm considering the following configuration:

• Console (Xbox or Nintendo Switch)

• Brook adapter (Wingman XB3 on Xbox, appropriate adapter on Switch)

• QuadStick

• Brook Wingman XE connected to the QuadStick's USB-A host port

• Xbox Adaptive Controller connected through the Wingman XE

• Two USB analog joysticks connected to the Xbox Adaptive Controller

My main question is:

If I connect the Xbox Adaptive Controller this way, will the QuadStick recognize both analog sticks (along with the XAC's buttons and switch inputs) and merge them into the QuadStick's controller output? In other words, will the console see everything as a single controller provided by the QuadStick, rather than as two separate controllers?

The reason I'm asking is that I've been using Xbox Copilot with the QuadStick and Xbox Adaptive Controller, but I've run into compatibility issues with some games (for example, Star Wars Outlaws). I'm hoping to avoid Copilot entirely if the QuadStick can use the XAC as an input device through the Wingman XE.

Has this configuration been tested before, or would you expect it to work?

Thank you very much for your time, and thanks for all the work you've put into the QuadStick. It's made a huge difference for me.

[Fred Davison]

That's probably the best way to use the XAC with the Quadstick.   It gives you the most flexibility by bringing all the XAC inputs, joysticks and buttons into the Quadstick configuration, then using them along with the inputs from the quadstick. 

It gets complicated since the XAC via the Wingman XE(1 or 2) will show up as two UltraStik with a bunch of buttons, so keeping track of all the name changes adds to the complexity.

Button A from the XAC will show up as usb_1_button_6.  The XAC's right analog stick will show up as usb_2_left/right/up/down.   Here's the whole list:

left_joy_left	normal	usb_1_left								Left Analog Stick
left_joy_right	normal	usb_1_right
left_joy_up	normal	usb_1_up
left_joy_down	normal	usb_1_down
right_joy_left	normal	usb_2_left								Right Analog Stick
right_joy_right	normal	usb_2_right
right_joy_up	normal	usb_2_up
right_joy_down	normal	usb_2_down
dpad_N	normal	usb_1_button_1								Dpad Up
dpad_E	normal	usb_1_button_2								Dpad Right
dpad_S	normal	usb_1_button_3								Dpad Down
dpad_W	normal	usb_1_button_4								Dpad Left
X	normal	usb_1_button_5								X
A	normal	usb_1_button_6								A
B	normal	usb_1_button_7								B
Y	normal	usb_1_button_8								Y
left_bumper	normal	usb_1_button_9								LB
right_bumper	normal	usb_1_button_10								RB
left_trigger	normal	usb_1_button_11								LT
right_trigger	normal	usb_1_button_12								RT
back	normal	usb_1_button_13								Back <
start	normal	usb_1_button_14								Start >
left_stick	normal	usb_1_button_15								LS
right_stick	normal	usb_1_button_16								RS
guide	normal	usb_2_button_1								Guide
capture	normal	usb_2_button_2								Capture

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wc5OLiDRTCvHSW0wnryEy0x_dWs1DSlteBllssXaRbY/view

You may need a power supply for the XAC, depending on how much power the joysticks you connect to it use, but the battery should probably be enough if they are UltraStiks.

[Trever Vallieres]

this is excellent news! Thank you so much for replying! I have a quick follow up question do you know of any reports talking about laggish inputs coming from the quad stick into the Xbox when using a mayflash magic X adapter sometimes when I play, I press the button A or move my joystick, and the input continues longer than what I wanted, and then my QS kind of freezes up and I’m not able to do any inputs for about two seconds and then everything goes back to normal. I am using an Xbox series S and I’m wondering if I get a different kind of adapter or use the series X would this resolve the issue I also use the QS  on the Nintendo switch two and it works just fine without any lag. 

[Fred Davison]

You could ask about Magic X lag in the discord.  I'm not aware of lag with it.  You could check to see if there is a firmware update for the Magic X or if other game controller forums mention it with typical controllers.

With the quadstick, dirty mouthpiece holes can cause lag in the pressure changing in the tubes, but that would affect all USB modes.