Modifier button? and config question

[glenn....@gmail.com]

Hi Fred and all,

I had a couple of questions I'm hoping to get some help with.

Question 1

I play Fifa 22 (and have pre-ordered 23) and try to use a US360 for right stick movement but because of a lack of motor skills I'm not good at the skills at all.

I was wondering if there is a way I could configure the QS so it would act as left stick but when I pressed a modifier button (digital in) it would change to right stick?

I've tried setting it up so the digital in changes modes / sheets (sheet 1 as left stick and sheet 2 as right stick) but the execution time is too slow.

Question 2

I'm looking to get 2k23 Golf which from what I can tell only has a 'true swing' option where you have to pull the mouse back and then quickly forward and the quicker the motion the harder the shot.

I've tried golf games like this using other adaptive mice (Quadjoy) but the movement was never quick enough to get 100% power no matter what speed I had Windows mouse settings to.

Would the QS be suitable for this type of movement and is there a way I could tune the speed?

Thank you for your help.

[Fred Davison]

You can switch modes with the button and switch modes back when you release the button.

increment_mode, normal, digital_in...    on the first sheet

decrement_mode, less_than 50, digital_in...   on the second sheet.  

When you press the button, it will increment to the next mode.  When the button is released, its value goes to 0 and the mode will decrement.

You can repeat rows for increment and decrement modes, so it does not have to be the very next mode sheet, you can have your "shifted" mode sheet several sheets away from your non-shifted mode sheet.

For the second question, you can have joystick calibration preferences set on a mode sheet, so they are only in effect while on that sheet, to make it more or less sensitive while in that sheet.

There are multiple preferences that affect the mouse:  The joystick minimum and maximum settings, the individual direction multipliers, the mouse speed, the mouse response curve, and then in Windows, there are additional settings for sensitivity and acceleration.

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[glenn....@gmail.com]

Hi Fred,

Thank you for your reply and for the information, it's greatly appreciated and sounds like the exact function I'm after.  I'll configure a new sheet and give it a go.

Thanks again

[Glenn Manning]

Hi Fred,

I was wondering if you can give some advice for what the best setting would be for a golf game true swing?  I'm using the QS as an Xbox controller and to swing you pull back on the right stick then flick it forward fairly fast.

I'm trying to use the settings on a mode sheet and I can't seem to find the right configuration, here is what I am using;

deflection_multiplier_down	normal	150
deflection_multiplier_up	normal	250
deflection_multiplier_left	normal	100
deflection_multiplier_right	normal	100

And I have the minimum set to 1 and the maximum set to 20 in QMP.

I can't seem to make the forward flick fast and I have tried lower and higher numbers but nothing changes?

Thanks for your help.

[RG RE-GAMER]

First read the Documentation: http://quadstick.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/user_manual/um/joystick_tab.htm?ms=AwAAMCA%3D&st=MA%3D%3D&sct=MjcyLjMxMDQyNDgwNDY4NzU%3D&mw=MzQw

I use lower values to slow the stick down for aiming, sniping, steering.  You can also speed up the mouse speed in your sheet settings. Have you tried higher maximum than 20?

Can you show us the url please?

[Glenn Manning]

Hi,

I have read the documentation and from what I have read I can't see that it lists the maximum allowed value for the multiplayer string (unless it's listed elsewhere) and some of the values I have tried made the QS have a fit (all the lights flashing along the top).  So that's why I asked Fred for advice.

Does the mouse speed setting still work when the QS is in Xbox configuration and not mouse?

I was trying to make only the forward motion faster because I still need a slower back motion as if it's too fast I can't set the power, that's why I haven't tried a higher setting than 20.

If you mean the url to the sheet here it is

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ePn68wFZCxKQIm8-1ldig6W1LA0UspB5vQYp0WFfD1Q/edit?usp=share_link

[RG RE-GAMER]

I didn't meant it in a bad way, i lke to refer to the documentation because it sometimes can be very helpful.

Is an Xbox game? ok, mouse is not an option. If its on PC and allows mixed controls it would work with QMP 4

joystick_warning 400 percent

Joystick position beyond full scale that will flash the leds

I asume you can try a higher up deflection, maybe try a higher value like 300 or 350

[Fred Davison]

Here's an idea:   The joystick up/down outputs are summed together to create the vertical axis output value.    We split the axis into two directions and then sum them up like this:

vertical axis = right_joystick_down - right_joystick_up.   When the joystick is up, the output is -100%.  When the joystick is down, the output is +100%.

The rows are summed together.

You can use sensors other than the joystick for the axis, like the sip/puff inputs or the lip button.

You can repeat the rows to add more to the direction you want to make more sensitive.

right_joystick_down, normal, down

right_joystick_up, normal, mp_center_puff

right_joystick_up, normal, mp_center_puff

right_joystick_up, normal, mp_center_puff

...

repeat as necessary to make the up movement "snap" when you puff.

Play with the sip/puff max setting too.  The lower the max pressure, the faster it will reach 100%

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[Glenn Manning]

Not a problem at all, I always make sure I read the documentation first because I hate asking obvious questions lol.

When I tried 350 deflection the QS didn't like it.

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[Glenn Manning]

Hi Fred,

Thanks, I will give that a try.

If I repeated right_joystick_up, normal, up would that make the up movement more sensitive?

[Fred Davison]

Set joystick_warning  up to a high number, like 999 to prevent an overly sensitive joystick setting from flashing the lights.

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[kerryl...@gmail.com]

Hey did you ever figure this out? Mind sharing your spreadsheet?

[Glenn Manning]

Hi Kerry,

Which part are you trying to configure, a modifier button or using sip/puff as the joystick axis?

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