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Cronus Zen anti recoil on PC

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marco...@gmail.com

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Sep 16, 2021, 9:05:56 PM9/16/21
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Although the coronus zen doesn't recognize the QS on PC, I was wondering if it was possible for someone to create this anti-recoil on the QS.  I would imagine creating a function that will drop the aiming cursor by millimeters or even have micro adjustments with decimals when you hold down the trigger button. That way people can make different profiles for different guns. I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one who would benefit from this. This would be a dream for first person shooter games

rocks...@gmail.com

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Sep 16, 2021, 10:58:50 PM9/16/21
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That’s called cheating buddy 😂 unless it’s not for multiplayer games I guess  but then I’d doubt you need recoil control for a story type single player game 

marco...@gmail.com

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Sep 16, 2021, 11:30:07 PM9/16/21
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Using our mouth to aim and hold it at the target is hard enough lol. If controllers have aim assist and this cronus zen for anti recoil, some of us won't stand a chance. but hey, you're supposed to be on our side haha. TeamQS :)

SteamyBiscuit

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Sep 16, 2021, 11:41:50 PM9/16/21
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the qs is seen as a controller especially if you use xbox mode, aim assist is built in the game itself  not the controller 

marco...@gmail.com

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Sep 17, 2021, 12:13:03 AM9/17/21
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Yes you're right. I should have been more specific. What I meant was PLAYERS who use controllers have aim assist.

rocks...@gmail.com

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Sep 17, 2021, 2:38:42 AM9/17/21
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QS handles recoil just fine https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMRCHqXdR/
Anti recoil way different then aim assist, aim assist slows your aim down near a target ,no recoil is just hacks imagine someone running around with a flatline in apex that has no recoil, I’d rather die then kill ppl with hacks bit it’s your account G do as you like 

bradr...@gmail.com

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Sep 18, 2021, 3:11:21 AM9/18/21
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I can aim better and faster then half my able bodied friends, you don't need that garbage, just practice, get your 10,000hrs in. You already get a free pass to double dip.

Using a Quadstick as an Xbox controller on PC games to take advantage of the aim assist and still have the movement of an actual mouse isn't necessarily not cheating either, if that weren't the case then everyone on PC may aswell use their mouse and keyboard in Zen, Titan, etc and just spoof the aim assist just to double dip, now if people did that in the able bodied community it would be frowned upon. So in regards to people saying "i would never do that", well sir, you are. We just get away with it because we are disabled. 

And before someone says "You can plug an xbox controller into a PC and do it and it's not cheating" Yes, but they are using an Xbox controller, not a M&K, there's a big difference.

M&K/QS(in M&K mode) on a PC 👌
Controller on an Console 👌
Controller on a PC 👌
M&K/QS(Xbox mode) on PC duped as an Xbox Controller 👎
M&K/QS on Console duped as an Xbox Controller 👎

BTW, i use my Quadstick+XAC as Xbox controller through x360ce, im also doing it, just don't be white knights and pretend your doing everything by the book. We are all guilty, he was just asking if it were possible. 

Dan NH

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Sep 18, 2021, 11:12:40 AM9/18/21
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This should be its own topic; at what point are our adaptations considered cheating?

If you go to the Titan 2 store, there is all kinds of software to do aim assisting/anti-recoil, but I consider this cheating.

There's an argument to be made that in order for a QS user to truly emulate being an average controller user, they must set every input on the spreadsheet to mode "normal." And don't use a mouse. No repeat modes. You could even say that doubling up inputs with tap/delay on is not possible on a controller, so we should not be doing it, either.

Of course, I think trying to make apples to apples and "be like everyone else" just means that we have to play with a handicap even on a theoretically level playing field.

So for me, there's going to be no aim assist, no anti-recoil. I will use the repeat/other functions on my spreadsheets. I may adjust sensitivities on the sheet. On the PC, I might use a touchpad. I'll stay in mouse/keyboard mode.

But I'm not going to pretend I'm an Xbox controller and then throw in all of the mouse/keyboard just so I can take advantage of aim assist. There are tons of able-bodied people doing that (and paying good money for it) and is considered cheating.

bradr...@gmail.com

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Sep 18, 2021, 2:29:47 PM9/18/21
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@Dan NH, im glad you understand what i was ranting about, I have no ill will against what anyone in our situation attempts to try to make everything more of an even playing field, because tbh even it we had FULL aim botting it still won't give you any skills within the game, zero awareness and you will also get sick of playing the game quicker because you're a god that has no f%cking clue what's going on, that's if you don't get banned first.

I just hate when people jump in and talk like what they are doing every day is 100% not against TOS. Not only that we have the power to switch shit on like anti recoil/orbital aim assist etc No one would even question why we have a Titan Two or a Cronus Zen sitting there connected to our QS's. It's scummy to do it, but it's there. 

And exactly right, Taps/Delay,  rapid fire any button,  latches, i totally get why they are in there, i use all of them, but just because it's in there doesn't make it that we are playing without some advantages aka cheating. 



So 



rocks...@gmail.com

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Sep 18, 2021, 11:16:33 PM9/18/21
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Im Deff not guilty A Quadstick Is litterally half a controller . It’s 1 “analog” three holes. Its not half a mouse or keyboard.
There’s limited buttons not 104 keys if you use a Quadstick your using a modified controller the old Quadstick was literally a chopped up Xbox controller, using a controller on pc is done by everyone even pros so using a Quadstick on pc with Xbox controls is no different and using m&k controls on a console would make nose sense on a Quadstick your just causing ur self to have more buttons to bind 

rocks...@gmail.com

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Sep 18, 2021, 11:22:28 PM9/18/21
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Difference between mouse /keyboard and controller 

The 104 keys on a full-size layout provide a huge selection of potential inputs, and mapping game functions across those readily accessible keys gives developers and players a huge amount of flexibility in how they want to control their experience.


The primary advantage mice have over controllers is the precision they allow when aiming, as well as the range of movement provided by the additional surface area of the mousepad. This means potentially faster movement


In a first person shooter, or any game where accuracy is important, a mouse is usually a competitive advantage, and facilitates easier execution of reaction-based shooting, like flickshots. This advantage is significant enough that controller-based FPS will sometimes implement aim assist, which is designed to mitigate that inherent disadvantage.


Mice, like keyboards, vary widely in functionality and design, including features like modular design, customizable buttons, and a huge selection of options for just about every type of gamer.


Analog joysticks may lack the precision and speed of a mouse, but if you press forward slightly the character might walk, and if you push harder, they might run. Holding a pressure-sensitive button moves your vehicle forward slowly; pressing all the way down could fully engage the throttle. These contextually sensitive buttons can provide a steadiness of movement that a keyboard might not be able to achieve. A joystick also makes continuous motion, like the panning of a camera for example, more consistent.


Dan NH

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Sep 19, 2021, 11:37:12 AM9/19/21
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Even considering that, what about the pulse or repeat function? That's not from an Xbox controller. That's software that allows us to do things the hands would normally do, at some increased level of precision.

I'm not saying we should feel guilty. I don't think it falls into the realm of cheating to use functions like that. There are special keyboards now which do the same thing, and even when I was a kid, they used to have third-party Nintendo controllers that had those features.

Downloading scripts for games crosses a red line for me, of course. Just pointing out, it's not apples to apples, and it doesn't have to be.

rocks...@gmail.com

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Sep 19, 2021, 12:17:34 PM9/19/21
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I personally never have used puse or repeat I just wouldn’t want my controller doing some thing on it’s own I like to be in Control Incase  I have to execute a different command instantly only thing I’ve used is toggle witch most games have The option in the settings,

But I wouldn’t feel guilty if I did use it nobody should I don’t think pulse or repeat give anyone a advantage if anything I would think a disadvantage in certain situations 

If it gives u a advantage like no recoil, faster movement, aimbot,wall hacks it’s frowned upon in any multiplayer games on any type of controller or m&k or adaptive device 

Slayers slay no matter what just gotta dig deep and crack a Gfuel 

Haywood Merritt

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Oct 8, 2021, 5:03:21 PM10/8/21
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Rocky! You are so hardcore ;)

Great thread on QS, life, and ethics in gaming.

pike...@gmail.com

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Oct 18, 2021, 6:27:32 AM10/18/21
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Fyi the Quadstick does work on PC with a Cronus Zen you have to put the Quadstick in boot PS 4 mode

glenn....@gmail.com

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Oct 23, 2021, 8:55:02 PM10/23/21
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Hi Pike,

I just received the Zen and am trying to set it up on PC.  I have the QS in Enable boot in PS4 USB mode but I can't get it to detect.  I have a US360 in the USB-A port on the QS.  Any advice or tips on how to set it up?

Thank you for your help, it is greatly appreciated.
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