[Interest] Does it really worth it?
jose...@gomezvergara.es
next 3 years. I was thinking to do a useful thing and to be honest I was
thinking in doing some kind of a good chart library for Qt. The thing is
that I dont really sure if Qt has a really good future.
I mean. Nokia bought it but when everybody was expecting how nokia was
going to use it in their mobiles and tables, they left it and took
Microsoft for that. Now, it is a open project, what is good, but my
question is... how can I know if Qt will be alive in 2015? Should I
dedicate energy to create some kind of http://www.steema.com/teechart/vcl.
Do you think that there is customers enough to support it?
Thanks in advance for your time and opinions
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Best regards, Dmitriy.
Hello.Qt always was and is a patron of KDE and KDE is a huge part of Linux.So, I personally am don't think that Qt will die, at least in near future (>5 years).The worst thing could happend is transformation of Qt into less portable framework(only for desktops) but it will be a live in KDE anyway.--------------------------------
Best regards, Dmitriy.
27 марта 2012 г. 14:40 пользователь <jose...@gomezvergara.es> написал:
André Somers
> I would like to dedicate all my energy to only one technology during the
> next 3 years. I was thinking to do a useful thing and to be honest I was
> thinking in doing some kind of a good chart library for Qt. The thing is
> that I dont really sure if Qt has a really good future.
>
> I mean. Nokia bought it but when everybody was expecting how nokia was
> going to use it in their mobiles and tables, they left it and took
> Microsoft for that. Now, it is a open project, what is good, but my
> question is... how can I know if Qt will be alive in 2015? Should I
> dedicate energy to create some kind of http://www.steema.com/teechart/vcl.
> Do you think that there is customers enough to support it?
>
> Thanks in advance for your time and opinions
>
response to such a question. That includes yours truly.
I think most of us would agree that Nokia's communication about the role
of Qt in it's mobile phone stragegy has been... eh... lacking. I have
good confidence, based on bits & pieces and statements from people I
trust, that there is a good place for Qt still on that front, but nobody
can say for sure. The question you'll have to answer for yourself, is if
Nokia's commitment to use Qt will influence your own position? 3 to 5
years is a long time in computing, and it is hard to see what the future
will bring. 3 years ago, few would have predicted the postion tablets
now seem to gain in the market, and fewer would have believed those
predictions.
I think there is plenty of reason to trust to building on Qt, and I and
many other people here make a living doing so. But there is no guarantee.
Perhaps you should ask your question broader, and weigh it against your
alternatives. What is a viable alternative to Qt for your goals?
André
jose...@gomezvergara.es
I see what you mean. More than alternative, I would say that Qt lack of a
good chart library. QWT is not a serios alternative.
Cocoa could be an alternative.. It lacks as well....
Charley Bay
Is there a commercial customer group providing some input on this?I am a commercial customer. Charts are key to what we do.Is there someone I could contact to provide our requirements in hopes some of them might be addressed?Karl
Turunen Tuukka
Hi,
We are creating a set of charting components.
They will be free of charge for Qt Commercial licensees.
First version preview should be out after easter.
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Quim Gil
- A developer thinking of extending Qt with a charts add-on found out in
few hours that there are three projects working in that direction, in
different stages of development, with different licensing models and
developed by different stakeholders (none of them being Nokia).
- That developer had a concern about the future of Qt in 2015, and the
Nokia involvement. In few hours he got answers from three Nokia
employees working full time in Qt and showing confidence in the
strategic commitment of their employer in Qt.
All in all it looks like a good response to his question. Thank you Qt
community!
This is the Qt Project. Here open source developers meet to collaborate
pushing Qt forward. It is everybody's interest to have a powerful Qt and
a vivid ecosystem rocking in 2015 - and a decade later. All of us here
have to "assure there is food in the table" (quoting Harri) and I bet
all of us are doing our best granting that for today and for the future.
It is not really useful pushing the people here with a @nokia.com
address (all of us betting our food on Qt) for anything related with
Nokia business. By the way this is a good advice applicable to any
employee of any corporation in any OSS project. With the best of
intentions I have put together http://qt-project.org/wiki/Nokia-and-Qt -
it's a wiki page and you are invited to improve it.
The Qt Project has an excellent level of discussion and collaboration
based on people and the work they do. Keeping this level and keeping the
morale high is a collective task. Like in any open source project, you
are encouraged to contribute your part.
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lorn....@nokia.com
On 28/03/2012, at 7:28 PM, ext Harri Pasanen wrote:
> On 03/28/2012 05:15 AM, lorn....@nokia.com wrote:
>> On 27/03/2012, at 9:59 PM, ext André Somers wrote:
>>
>>> I think most of us would agree that Nokia's communication about the role
>>> of Qt in it's mobile phone stragegy has been... eh... lacking. I have
>>> good confidence, based on bits& pieces and statements from people I
>>> trust, that there is a good place for Qt still on that front, but nobody
>>> can say for sure.
>> You mean like this?
>> http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/06/21/qt%E2%80%99s-future-for-nokia-bringing-apps-to-the-next-billion/
>>
>
> That communication is soon a year old, which is a long time in this
> business...
>
> So personally I'd count that as lacking communication. It leaves
> developers (me at least) hoping, rather than being assured, that
> something will come out of it. That is a big difference when you have
> to assure there is food on the table, not just hope for it.
All you need to do is a 'git log' on any Qt module and check the committers email addresses. That should be communication enough that Nokia is committed to developing Qt. But what's truly special is that now, it's not only just @nokia.com email addresses. :) Which means even more people are joining in the fun!
>
>
> Just my 2 cents,
>
> Harri
>
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Rui Maciel
> The Qt Project has an excellent level of discussion and collaboration
> based on people and the work they do. Keeping this level and keeping the
> morale high is a collective task. Like in any open source project, you
> are encouraged to contribute your part.
Going on a tangent here, but one thing that Nokia inherited and kept
providing for Qt was the nifty NNTP interface for Qt lists, which was
available at:
nntp://nntp.qt.nokia.com
That interface has since stopped working. It would be great if this
situation was reverted and a NNTP interface was once again provided for
Qt users.
Rui Maciel
Bo Thorsen
>[...]
> - That developer had a concern about the future of Qt in 2015, and the
> Nokia involvement. In few hours he got answers from three Nokia
> employees working full time in Qt and showing confidence in the
> strategic commitment of their employer in Qt.
Here's one for all those people craving official information from Nokia:
http://www.netbooknews.com/47197/nokia-working-on-two-new-low-end-meego-smartphones/
This is great news, it looks like the N9 isn't the end of the line. I
still use the one I got on DevDays as my main phone as well as for
development. And I even bought a new N9 for my wife last week. Meego
phones are still here. Yay :)
I know a bunch of people working in the Ulm office (Germany, close to
Munich), and several headhunters have tried to hired me for it as well.
I can't find out what it is they're doing there (and that's *so*
annoying), but they're still hiring Qt people for the office. You do the
math (not necessarily on this list, though).
Bo Thorsen,
Fionia Software.
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jose...@gomezvergara.es
better for me. They are on a mistake, of course.
jose maria gomez
answers, it seems that without any doubt Qt is a really alive and
healthly project. So, it is a good project to invest time, being sure
that the effort will worth it.
Thanks again to the qt community.
On 03/29/2012 08:20 AM, Bo Thorsen wrote:
> Den 28-03-2012 19:03, Quim Gil skrev:
>> [...]
>> - That developer had a concern about the future of Qt in 2015, and the
>> Nokia involvement. In few hours he got answers from three Nokia
>> employees working full time in Qt and showing confidence in the
>> strategic commitment of their employer in Qt.
> Here's one for all those people craving official information from Nokia:
> http://www.netbooknews.com/47197/nokia-working-on-two-new-low-end-meego-smartphones/
>
> This is great news, it looks like the N9 isn't the end of the line. I
> still use the one I got on DevDays as my main phone as well as for
> development. And I even bought a new N9 for my wife last week. Meego
> phones are still here. Yay :)
>
> I know a bunch of people working in the Ulm office (Germany, close to
> Munich), and several headhunters have tried to hired me for it as well.
> I can't find out what it is they're doing there (and that's *so*
> annoying), but they're still hiring Qt people for the office. You do the
> math (not necessarily on this list, though).
>
> Bo Thorsen,
> Fionia Software.
>
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gemfield
----- Original Message -----From: jose...@gomezvergara.es To: Bo Thorsen <b...@fioniasoftware.dk> I can not buy a N9 in Spain, they have decided that a Windows Phone is better for me. They are on a mistake, of course. > Den 28-03-2012 19:03, Quim Gil skrev: >>[...] >> - That developer had a concern about the future of Qt in 2015, and the >> Nokia involvement. In few hours he got answers from three Nokia >> employees working full time in Qt and showing confidence in the >> strategic commitment of their employer in Qt. > > Here's one for all those people craving official information from Nokia: > http://www.netbooknews.com/47197/nokia-working-on-two-new-low-end-meego-smartphones/ > > This is great news, it looks like the N9 isn't the end of the line. I > still use the one I got on DevDays as my main phone as well as for > development. And I even bought a new N9 for my wife last week. Meego > phones are still here. Yay :) > > I know a bunch of people working in the Ulm office (Germany, close to > Munich), and several headhunters have tried to hired me for it as well. > I can't find out what it is they're doing there (and that's *so* > annoying), but they're still hiring Qt people for the office. You do the > math (not necessarily on this list, though). > > Bo Thorsen, > Fionia Software. > > -- > > Expert Qt and C++ developer for hire > Contact me if you need expert Qt help > http://www.fioniasoftware.dk > _______________________________________________ > Interest mailing list > Inte...@qt-project.org
Jose Maria Gomez
Turunen Tuukka
Yes, for licencees.
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